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Reccos · 09-01-2005, 09:11 PM

I have to agree with Walls and Shaven on Buck Pierce's ability to play and play now. Both have seen the guy live I think as I have both in games and practices.

This guy is a Dave Dickenson but he is faster, stronger and more mobile. He can play. What Dickenson was saying about the guy being 4 and not making it is that it looked that Jackson who came late last year would fill the 3rd spot and there'd be no, no. 4 guy.

Pierce would be in the NFL if he had not come from a school that ran the option for his first 3 years. His one year at a pro set offence put him at 11th in passing in college ball.

He reads defences incredibly for a rookie as he does step up into the pocket. Buono is suggesting that the guy is another Jeff Garcia which is pretty high praise.

His passing in the Hamilton game was 3 for 3 and vs. Sask it was 9 for 12. What do you want, 100%.

How many rookie QBs can you name who will stand in the pocket when they know the blitz is on and they know a guy is definitely coming on the back side (blind side)? Not many, they usually get out of there in a panic and do nothing. He is reading the blitz well.

The passes to Clermont across the middle weren't his best ever but they were catchable and he caught them. This looks like a simple pass from the pocket but it is not. If the blitz is coming he throws that pass quickly. If they aren't blitzing he delays until the guy can get some separation from the cover guy. This is all happening quickly. If the primary receiver over the centre is not on, he has to make another quick decision - if blitz - toss it long or get out. If no blitz, look intermediate or get out of there.

Pierce played great as he came into the game with all the momentum with the Riders. To chuck a ball behind a bit (but it was caught is nothing). In that first series or the second he was starting to run and the guy got him on a shoe string tackle - no big deal.

There is a lot for a QB to be reading and if they use the 5 or 6 receiver set, he less protection on the back side so time is an issue.

If you listened to Pierce post game, he made the point to Caravatta that when the blitz was on, he kept his eyes focused downfield looking for open receivers or the gap to run. It is not easy for rookie QBs to do this especially a guy with one year experience in the past 4 years with a passing offence.

I agree he has seen limited time so far and it is vastly different to run the offence for a whole game. That is why they are not putting the pressure on him too soon.

Pierce is a good ball control/manager guy with more upside than Jarius Jackson who has kicked around the NFL and the NFL Europe and not really caught on. Jackson can toss the pretty passes 40 - 50 yards in practice but not too many are getting to the right guy or to anyone at all.

09-01-2005, 09:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
Reccos Member Joined: Oct 2001 Location: Coquitlam Posts: 1,461 TTP Friends: (1)	Re: Buck Pierce: Is he over rated? I have to agree with Walls and Shaven on Buck Pierce's ability to play and play now. Both have seen the guy live I think as I have both in games and practices. This guy is a Dave Dickenson but he is faster, stronger and more mobile. He can play. What Dickenson was saying about the guy being 4 and not making it is that it looked that Jackson who came late last year would fill the 3rd spot and there'd be no, no. 4 guy. Pierce would be in the NFL if he had not come from a school that ran the option for his first 3 years. His one year at a pro set offence put him at 11th in passing in college ball. He reads defences incredibly for a rookie as he does step up into the pocket. Buono is suggesting that the guy is another Jeff Garcia which is pretty high praise. His passing in the Hamilton game was 3 for 3 and vs. Sask it was 9 for 12. What do you want, 100%. How many rookie QBs can you name who will stand in the pocket when they know the blitz is on and they know a guy is definitely coming on the back side (blind side)? Not many, they usually get out of there in a panic and do nothing. He is reading the blitz well. The passes to Clermont across the middle weren't his best ever but they were catchable and he caught them. This looks like a simple pass from the pocket but it is not. If the blitz is coming he throws that pass quickly. If they aren't blitzing he delays until the guy can get some separation from the cover guy. This is all happening quickly. If the primary receiver over the centre is not on, he has to make another quick decision - if blitz - toss it long or get out. If no blitz, look intermediate or get out of there. Pierce played great as he came into the game with all the momentum with the Riders. To chuck a ball behind a bit (but it was caught is nothing). In that first series or the second he was starting to run and the guy got him on a shoe string tackle - no big deal. There is a lot for a QB to be reading and if they use the 5 or 6 receiver set, he less protection on the back side so time is an issue. If you listened to Pierce post game, he made the point to Caravatta that when the blitz was on, he kept his eyes focused downfield looking for open receivers or the gap to run. It is not easy for rookie QBs to do this especially a guy with one year experience in the past 4 years with a passing offence. I agree he has seen limited time so far and it is vastly different to run the offence for a whole game. That is why they are not putting the pressure on him too soon. Pierce is a good ball control/manager guy with more upside than Jarius Jackson who has kicked around the NFL and the NFL Europe and not really caught on. Jackson can toss the pretty passes 40 - 50 yards in practice but not too many are getting to the right guy or to anyone at all.