2006 Keith Millar BC Provincial B Cup

[Tuna]

You got me LSD. Everyone in the Richmond League one day aspires to play Div 2 FVSL. Your coaching prowess must be legendary out there...

[big juggs]

Originally Posted by LSD

hahaha the Richmond league picking on the Revelstoke league. Same thing as the physically disabled picking on the mentally handicapped.

And what do I think about that? I don't know, but I watched my Div 2 FVSL team play the top Richmond team last year, the All Blacks and I truly wasn't all that impressed at all. Why don't you hand a Div 2 FVSL team their ass instead of sneaking out a last second PK win undeservedly before you start talking shit about how you could compete with a FVSL Premier team let alone Div 1 team?

allblacks will repeat as champion, as long as we avoid the dragons. dragons okay team. I saw them play peace arch premier last year and they didnt look out of place. some dude broke his leg in the game.

lsd. licking salty dicks. Too each their own. All the league in the province are shite. Saying one is better than the others are for losers. Soccer in this control will never be more than the 86th place in the fifa standings so get over it.

[canucklehead]

Originally Posted by LSD

hahaha the Richmond league picking on the Revelstoke league. Same thing as the physically disabled picking on the mentally handicapped.

And what do I think about that? I don't know, but I watched my Div 2 FVSL team play the top Richmond team last year, the All Blacks and I truly wasn't all that impressed at all. Why don't you hand a Div 2 FVSL team their ass instead of sneaking out a last second PK win undeservedly before you start talking shit about how you could compete with a FVSL Premier team let alone Div 1 team?

Fair enough comment about your game last year versus the Allblacks LSD, but that's the thing about the game; is regardless of all else, the game is played on the pitch and for the most part any team can win on any given day. Weak teams pull off upsets all the time. Fact was that Allblacks made it hard on themselves taking it into extra time. But, I'm not the one whose complaining that the Richmond teams win almost every year because apperently they should be in the "A" cup, its you guys in the FVSL that are moaning. It was the same thing last year. "The Rovers win every year...whaa, whaa. They should be playing for the "A" Cup." The reality is that your Premier teams have no business in competing for the "A" cup. They have never won it and their best team had to leave to another league to find suitable competition. And since then, the boys at United have a provincial title, a couple of league titles, an Imperior Cup as well as a bronze from the Nationals in 2004. Bottom line is this: the competition would be better off with the RSSL Premier teams, FVSL Premier, VMSL division 1 and like teams competing for this trohey and BCSA creating a C cup for div 2 VMSL, div 1 and 2 FVSL, div 1 RSSL (maybe the boys from the Shushwap would like to join in too??) and the rest of the province. Be honest with yourself; FVSL Premier isn't anywhere equal to the VMSL Premier and what the hell are FVSL div 1 teams playing on "A" forms for? That's just rediculous thinking that a FVSL div 1team can compete for the "A" cup. Give you head a shake!

[hack]

Originally Posted by canucklehead

the competition would be better off with the RSSL Premier teams, FVSL Premier, VMSL division 1 and like teams competing for this trohey and BCSA creating a C cup for div 2 VMSL, div 1 and 2 FVSL, div 1 RSSL

I hate to admit it, but Canucklehead is onto something here. It is something to think about.

This cup was entirely different before they allowed the VMSL and FVSL teams to compete, some might say it was a better tournament. The first year the VMSL and FVSL were eligible the FVSL brought their Div 1 teams then they changed it to only Div 2 teams (wishful thinking that there Div 1 teams would compete in the A Cup?).

I've noticed over the years that BCSA has taken this tournament a lot less seriously over the years, maybe that tells us something.

You can't compare what a Div 2 FVSL team did against a Div 2 VMSL or a premier RSSL in one game. You have to look at how you would do over a full season. Besides, is it really that gratifying to say that you almost beat a team last year? Who cares you still lost.

[dezza]

Originally Posted by big juggs

allblacks will repeat as champion, as long as we avoid the dragons. dragons okay team. I saw them play peace arch premier last year and they didnt look out of place. some dude broke his leg in the game.

lsd. licking salty dicks. Too each their own. All the league in the province are shite. Saying one is better than the others are for losers. Soccer in this control will never be more than the 86th place in the fifa standings so get over it.

Is the All-Blacks summer team the same as the winter one? If so, how come you guys are playing RRSL div. 2?

[bonefish]

Originally Posted by Dapotayto

...but don't let it fool you, his finishing is like a soft-core porn. No money shots.

Dap, it is all about the seduction and foreplay, with the ladies that is. Rather than than the Playboy Channel, I like to think my finishing is more like Comdey Central. People gotsta laugh, especially these days.

[Tuna]

The All-Blacks summer team is made up of random dog walkers, over the hill winter players and other such misfits. Then again, so is the winter team.

We'd prefer to win the RRSL Div. 2 title than finish middle of the pack in the first.

[canucklehead]

Originally Posted by Tuna

The All-Blacks summer team is made up of random dog walkers, over the hill winter players and other such misfits. Then again, so is the winter team.

We'd prefer to win the RRSL Div. 2 title than finish middle of the pack in the first.

It's summer soccer, Tuna. Who gives a shit where you finish??? Is there even a tophey awarded? I can hear the Fraser Valley already. "Allblacks shouldn't be in div 2 RRSL, we can't win anything."

Testing, testing...is this thing on out in the valley? It seems unusually quiet out there

[LSD]

Having FVSL premier teams compete for the B cup is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard. In the NFL nobody in the AFC South has won a Superbowl, so by your logic does that mean they should be competing in the CFL for the Grey Cup? I thought the plan in Canada was to increase our competition level, not try and dumb things down, give your head a shake loser. How come your argument isn't about how the Richmond teams should be competing in the A cup, probably because you would get spanked. Other than this year the Valley has won a good amount of games against the Island teams and beat a few VMSL teams I believe, and I don't recall people talking about the FVSL being better than the VMSL so I don’t know why you’re writing lengthy pointless articles on it, and I think one guy who has never seen a Richmond team before mentioned they should be in the A cup, so stop trying to make it sound like a universal point of view, nobody really gives a shit just send the guy a private message next time. As for FVSL Div 1 competing in the B cup I think it makes sense but then a C cup would probably have to be established to give the Div 3 teams something to play for.

[canucklehead]

LSD, the diference with the AFC south and the FVSL is that at least they (AFC south teams) are able to get to a cup final. The reason that my argument doesn't say anything about our Premier teams competing in the "A" cup is because they can't compete at that level; you are very perceptive . It is what it is. Just wondering, how many provincials have you been at; and being the guy who hoses down the pisser at the end of the tourney doesn't count What dumbs down the competition is having teams competing for titles that they haven't got a sniff at winning. Who does it benefit to have FV prem and div 1 teams playing on "A" forms??
And as for your brilliant revelation of creating a C cup, I mentioned that back in my first post yesterday; very original LSD.
PS: talk about lengthy pointless articles. I especially enjoyed the brutal run-on sentence towards the end. Nice work Hemmingway!

[hack]

Why don't we rename the RSSL Premier to Div 1 and call it a day.

The fact is the majority of the players on the three teams representing the RSSL are in their late 30's to mid 40's. So if some Div 2 FVSL team is going to whine that they have to beat a bunch of players that are closer to 50 than 25 than so be it, whine away.

Back in the old days the FVSL used to combine all the divisions to compete for the Pakenham Cup, did we complain that we had to play against premier players who also played in the CSL, hell we even had a couple of old NASL players out there. No. So suck it up and enjoy your time in Victoria.

[canucklehead]

Originally Posted by hack

Why don't we rename the RSSL Premier to Div 1 and call it a day.

The fact is the majority of the players on the three teams representing the RSSL are in their late 30's to mid 40's. So if some Div 2 FVSL team is going to whine that they have to beat a bunch of players that are closer to 50 than 25 than so be it, whine away.

Back in the old days the FVSL used to combine all the divisions to compete for the Pakenham Cup, did we complain that we had to play against premier players who also played in the CSL, hell we even had a couple of old NASL players out there. No. So suck it up and enjoy your time in Victoria.

Well put, Hack. You see, I have no problem agreeing with you

[utah]

RRSL allblacks premiere have now become theRRSL div one
Grey Ballsacks then. Agreed.

[Tuna]

I really hope that the "Characters" at Characters Pub and the steller "Stallions" at Danato Millwork smack the crap out of you and teach you a silly lesson...

[Dude]

The whole A form B form thing makes this very complicated. I agree...it would give the competition more validity if FVSL 1st div teams could compete...but then they'd be excluded from the Pak...and that's what makes the Pak fun, and a great competition. And, agreed, it was better way back in the day when everyone was entered.

Who'd even representing the FVSL in this tourney? The top div.2 team, LUFC Athletics (us ) declined because we couldn't field a team w/ only our roster players. Too many guys w/ wives having babies, and vacations, etc. I don't see the Aldergrove team entered. Can't remember who won the Knight's Cup, but they weren't one of the promoted teams. I think it's safe to say the promoted teams from this year's FVSL Div. 2 didn't bother to take the Knight's Cup seriously, as I don't think one made it past the 2nd round, and didn't care to, either.

So, all this arguing, and I don't even think there will be a competitive squad show up from the Valley. I guess they all agree as we do...meaningless tourney.

[bulljive]

maybe div 1 teams should have the choice of joining the knights league cup and enter the provincials if they qualify. Now of course that would mean you wouldn't get a shot at the Pak. Right now having the option between div 1 cup and Pak cup is pretty obvious to me you choose the Pak cup. But having the choice of going into the knights cup then playing in a provincials against good vmsl div 1 teams, and richmond premier teams makes it a bit of a tougher choice. I would probably choice the B provincials because our team isn't good enough to win the Pak let alone compete at the A cup. simple as that

[canucklehead]

Originally Posted by Dude

The whole A form B form thing makes this very complicated. I agree...it would give the competition more validity if FVSL 1st div teams could compete...but then they'd be excluded from the Pak...and that's what makes the Pak fun, and a great competition. And, agreed, it was better way back in the day when everyone was entered.

Pardon my ignorance, but what league rule does the FVSL have that prevents teams from competing in Pak and B Cup? Is Pak only open to "A" form teams?

[Dude]

Originally Posted by canucklehead

Pardon my ignorance, but what league rule does the FVSL have that prevents teams from competing in Pak and B Cup? Is Pak only open to "A" form teams?

Yes.

[hack]

Here is a link to the schedules......

http://bcsoccer.net/bcsa/Portals/0/M...draw_06_kt.pdf

[FCbytca]

holy cow, a game at 8:30 am on sat, so I guess they don't want us to drink