BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt

**knvb** · 01-16-2008, 09:36 AM

Word on the street is the PCSL is vying for a birth in the Provincial Cup this or next season. I believe "back in the day" they had a few spots didn't they? If this is true the question becomes who loses a spot? VMSL, FVSL or the VISL? I suppose clubs with teams in 2 leagues would then have to be careful not to “cup tie” their players?

Bronco · 01-16-2008, 09:50 AM

When we played in the Coast League, when it was actually a much better league than the VMSL, the Champion automatically had a berth into the final 16. It's a tough position because of when the Provincial Cup is played. VMSL teams at the end of their season and arguably in the best form as opposed to Coast League teams at the start of their season. That was the main reason we left to play inthe VMSL. Boy how it's paid off

But I think the drought ends this year!!!

Bronco · 01-16-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by knvb

Word on the street is the PCSL is vying for a birth

natural or c-section??

B-E-R-T-H

**knvb** · 01-16-2008, 10:49 AM

If it has your head there is no way it was natural. Wanker

**Regs** · 01-16-2008, 12:20 PM

Interesting.

Would quality of the teams in the PCSL suffer? Think of the perenial strong teams (non-american) and most of their players play for competitive winter teams...

Hands of Stone · 01-16-2008, 02:47 PM

What if Peace Arch (FVSL) and Peace Arch (PCSL) both gain spots into the B.C.'s, would they get a chance to play both games, or just hope that they draw each other in the first round.

Back in the day of Wesburn, in both VMSL and PCSL, the club treated it as two shots into the B.C.'s, with neither working.

hos

**Captain Shamrock** · 01-16-2008, 04:00 PM

There will be a similar situation as the NCAA tournament.........

The coast league team, which will be Vancouver(UBC) this year because Victoria declined......the bottom teams in the FVSL/VMSL/VISL will be put into a barrel the team who is drawn will play the PCSL team for entry to the provincials.........This is going to happen this year by the way.

You heard it here first.

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cloughie · 01-16-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Shamrock

There will be a similar situation as the NCAA tournament.........

The coast league team, which will be Vancouver(UBC) this year because Victoria declined......the bottom teams in the FVSL/VMSL/VISL will be put into a barrel the team who is drawn will play the PCSL team for entry to the provincials.........This is going to happen this year by the way.

You heard it here first.

TTP Exclusive

Haven't heard this much boooolshite in quite a while

**Regs** · 01-17-2008, 11:43 AM

Everything Burnsie said above is confirmed.

UBC is in, bottom qualifiers from each league will be put in a hat and the team drawn will play UBC.

Basically this game will be a 'qualifier' to get into the final 16 of provincials.

I've also heard that Mosh has tried to get 5 players "transfered" from Westside so that they can play for UBC. Or something like that - any in the know on this?

**knvb** · 01-17-2008, 11:52 AM

What does bottom qualifiers mean? Who would that be? A team that may be relegated but has a strong Imperial cup, or Pack Cup run and makes it to the provincials or a team mid table who get in through the league standings?

Why UBC? Penticton, Kelowna, Khalsa or PAU don't qualify? Who's making the decision? Don’t get me wrong I have no issue with the PCSL getting a spot.

Hands of Stone · 01-17-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Regs

I've also heard that Mosh has tried to get 5 players "transfered" from Westside so that they can play for UBC. Or something like that - any in the know on this?

When is the transfer dead line?

Not sure there can be one, two leagues that allow players to play for different teams.
So as long as Westside doesn't make the BC's, then now problem, but what if they do?
Big problem.

hos

dezza · 01-17-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knvb

Why UBC? Penticton, Kelowna, Khalsa or PAU don't qualify? Who's making the decision? Don’t get me wrong I have no issue with the PCSL getting a spot.

Assuming it's based on last year's league results Victoria is the top PCSL team, but according to CS they declined, so it goes to 2nd place... UBC.

Hands of Stone · 01-17-2008, 12:11 PM

Here it is, you are correct.

PCSL - Pacific Coast Soccer League

hos

**Captain Shamrock** · 01-17-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cloughie

Haven't heard this much boooolshite in quite a while

Really?

**Captain Shamrock** · 01-17-2008, 08:12 PM

UBC is going to be appealing these decisions in terms of the Jan. 15th deadline.......we have one player who has been requested to transfer........the players are all allowed to play this weekend and probably next week........funny how that works.......how many players are at Westside?

cloughie · 01-18-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Shamrock

Really?

really!

there is something at play but it is not even close to being decided, how anyone can claim they know what's happening when the competitions committee hasn't even met until next wednesday.....duuuuuh!

**Captain Shamrock** · 01-18-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cloughie

really!

there is something at play but it is not even close to being decided, how anyone can claim they know what's happening when the competitions committee hasn't even met until next wednesday.....duuuuuh!

Cloughie, I'm still going out on a limb here and saying this is going to happen.....

cloughie · 01-18-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Shamrock

Cloughie, I'm still going out on a limb here and saying this is going to happen.....

It's not much of a limb when it's being openly discussed that the PCL addition will happen BUT the details have not been worked out yet, wait and see.

ArroyoBunk · 01-24-2008, 12:04 PM

here's what it says on the fvsl site:

"This year the Provincial Cup OPEN Men's Tournament will include 20 teams. VMSL- 9, VISL- 5, FVSL- 5, PCSL- 1. Each league has a seeded team in the 1st Round who will be given a BYE in the Preliminary round along with 8 other teams. The DRAW will be held march 25th and the Preliminary round (8 teams) will take place on the weekend of April 5/6. Finals will be held in Chilliwack on May 10th."

**Regs** · 01-24-2008, 12:32 PM

Please discuss in the TTP Thread here:

Provincial Cup Men Open 2008 Big Change!

01-16-2008, 09:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
knvb No, really, I am... A Total Bastard Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Yes Posts: 10,474 Images: 229 TTP Friends: (6)	BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt Word on the street is the PCSL is vying for a birth in the Provincial Cup this or next season. I believe "back in the day" they had a few spots didn't they? If this is true the question becomes who loses a spot? VMSL, FVSL or the VISL? I suppose clubs with teams in 2 leagues would then have to be careful not to “cup tie” their players?

01-16-2008, 09:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bronco Member Joined: Oct 2001 Location: On the road to recovery Posts: 1,062 Images: 1 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt When we played in the Coast League, when it was actually a much better league than the VMSL, the Champion automatically had a berth into the final 16. It's a tough position because of when the Provincial Cup is played. VMSL teams at the end of their season and arguably in the best form as opposed to Coast League teams at the start of their season. That was the main reason we left to play inthe VMSL. Boy how it's paid off But I think the drought ends this year!!!

01-16-2008, 10:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
knvb No, really, I am... A Total Bastard Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Yes Posts: 10,474 Images: 229 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt If it has your head there is no way it was natural. Wanker

01-16-2008, 12:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,598 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (7)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt Interesting. Would quality of the teams in the PCSL suffer? Think of the perenial strong teams (non-american) and most of their players play for competitive winter teams... __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

01-16-2008, 02:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,333 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (4)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt What if Peace Arch (FVSL) and Peace Arch (PCSL) both gain spots into the B.C.'s, would they get a chance to play both games, or just hope that they draw each other in the first round. Back in the day of Wesburn, in both VMSL and PCSL, the club treated it as two shots into the B.C.'s, with neither working. hos

01-16-2008, 04:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Captain Shamrock Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Richmond Posts: 11,109 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt There will be a similar situation as the NCAA tournament......... The coast league team, which will be Vancouver(UBC) this year because Victoria declined......the bottom teams in the FVSL/VMSL/VISL will be put into a barrel the team who is drawn will play the PCSL team for entry to the provincials.........This is going to happen this year by the way. You heard it here first. TTP Exclusive

01-17-2008, 11:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,598 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (7)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt Everything Burnsie said above is confirmed. UBC is in, bottom qualifiers from each league will be put in a hat and the team drawn will play UBC. Basically this game will be a 'qualifier' to get into the final 16 of provincials. I've also heard that Mosh has tried to get 5 players "transfered" from Westside so that they can play for UBC. Or something like that - any in the know on this? __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

01-17-2008, 11:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
knvb No, really, I am... A Total Bastard Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Yes Posts: 10,474 Images: 229 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt What does bottom qualifiers mean? Who would that be? A team that may be relegated but has a strong Imperial cup, or Pack Cup run and makes it to the provincials or a team mid table who get in through the league standings? Why UBC? Penticton, Kelowna, Khalsa or PAU don't qualify? Who's making the decision? Don’t get me wrong I have no issue with the PCSL getting a spot. Last edited by knvb; 01-17-2008 at 11:58 AM.

01-17-2008, 12:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,333 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (4)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt Here it is, you are correct. PCSL - Pacific Coast Soccer League hos

01-17-2008, 08:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
Captain Shamrock Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Richmond Posts: 11,109 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt UBC is going to be appealing these decisions in terms of the Jan. 15th deadline.......we have one player who has been requested to transfer........the players are all allowed to play this weekend and probably next week........funny how that works.......how many players are at Westside?

01-24-2008, 12:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
ArroyoBunk Member Joined: Oct 2003 Location: wack Posts: 235 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt here's what it says on the fvsl site: "This year the Provincial Cup OPEN Men's Tournament will include 20 teams. VMSL- 9, VISL- 5, FVSL- 5, PCSL- 1. Each league has a seeded team in the 1st Round who will be given a BYE in the Preliminary round along with 8 other teams. The DRAW will be held march 25th and the Preliminary round (8 teams) will take place on the weekend of April 5/6. Finals will be held in Chilliwack on May 10th."

01-24-2008, 12:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,598 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (7)	Re: BC soccer rumours, lies and scuttlebutt Please discuss in the TTP Thread here: Provincial Cup Men Open 2008 Big Change! __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

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