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Old 11-09-2004, 08:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default End of the 1st half, go eat an orange

So we have come to the halfway point in this fine competitive div 1 season. Surprises, a few. Where to start, well we have all seen each other as we have played each other once now.

heres my breakdown of each team...

we started off our season against the razorbacks.....a shity ass night torential rain and 5 bs goals...3-2 for the razors......i have since seen them play....wade is good on a breakaway but has nothing else....all this talk about wade leave good ol currie in the shadow to do his thing, easily their best player....and teh old guy with the stache...arty....damn...hang those rucanors up gramps.......
then it was on to sporting whos were coming off a 5-0 win, we thought for a minute that div 1 may have been too big of a leap...well an 8-2 win shut the critics up and we were injected with confidence.....sporting had 3 good players who never touched teh ball....bad coaching....

alder grove and highlander...both undefeated...good work...not easy to do.....two similar teams , old boys and size direct their ways.....two teams who look like they have played together for sometime.....

langley and nd players.........two teams who are extremely outclassed....have fun in div 2

rangers......only team to really earn points against us.....looking forward to teh rematch.....and for them to take 3 off of alderbush for us

poco and moody.......fukc im late...so these teams should lose to us in teh 2nd leg............


final four.........knights1st, razors 2nd, rangers, 3rd, alder 4th
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There is no way Aldergrove will fall to fourth.

You and I had a freindly $10 wager last year for the Knights Cup. If you honestly think that you will win Div. 1 this year, then let's do it again. $10 says you don't.

Aside from Langley and Delta, this Division is tight. I think only 6 points seperate 6 through 2nd. Nine games to go, and the top six still have a chance. To be honest though, I don't see anyone catching Aldergorve. Not even us.
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Old 11-09-2004, 11:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The division is tight....and really can be won by anyone.

We (the Rangers) have stumbled for the past month....who is to say Aldergrove doesnt do the same?


As you said, the top six teams are good....and on any given game, any team can win....or tie, which is almost as good as a loss.
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Here is my report card for each team:

Aldergrove - 1st game of the year is hard to gauge with teams getting used to the players they have added. A team that is not outstanding in any one particular area, but good in all. A-

Dewdney - A team that can be very difficult if you have never played them before. Lots of quickness upfront and solid midfield. The keeper may be the best in Div 1. B+

Langley - We had a ton of trouble with Langley in our game. Don't know if it was the turf or what but Langley was deserving of a tie, but took a 1-0 loss. They just don't have enough solid Div 1 players. D-

ND Players - Like Langley, but didn't give us as much trouble. Only 1-0 win but they gave up way more chances than the score reflects. Someone explain to them not to play the offside trap. Forwards do a lot of running but not sure how useful it is. D

GEU BK - Of our first 8 games BK took it to us the most. There ball movement from their backs to mids to forwards was the best of the Div 1 teams we played. They seemed to have trouble creating a lot of quality scoring chances though. B+

Surrey Sporting - They have always gotten results against us in the past when we have been the better team. They have 3 solid players that carry that team. Maybe Erma Stephensen is tough for the older (less fit) teams to play on. C+

Port Moody - The night we played the weather was horrible, but they didn't create a lot of chances. There goal came off a wind blown corner that went in the top corner. If you can shut BS down then you have got a shot. They have improved on last year. C

Rangers - Have basically overhauled half their team which is difficult. They still have some dangerous players but their goalkeeping has been letting them down at times this year. C

PoCo Raiders - Makeup game. No where near the form they showed last year. C-

DMU Highlanders - Last year we were 6-10-2 and we lost 1/2 a dozen players and replaced them with guys that didn't play soccer last year. I thought we would be in a relegation battle. Undefeated even with 5 ties is something we are pretty happy about. Hopefully we can carry it on in the 2nd half. B
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What the league looks like thru my eyes.........

Alderbush....undefeated, thus what can you say. Muck games out and play well to their strengths........defense and counter attack. Cannot see them drop many points in the second half.

DFC....did not look good against us, but still are in second. Seem to be a 2 player team thus far; Wade and their goalie. If they can get some other scoring, then first place may not be out of the picture. Have to watch more games to get an overall look. Top 4 finisher, but where?

BK's....good overall team, but need some leadership in the form of a few vets. Add this to the mix and the team may not be in div 1 for too long.

Sporting....who knows what team will show up. Win big one week and get stomped the next. Inconsistent, but good enough to be in the top so far. Prediction, bubble bursts in the second half as teams get on their weak defense.

DMU....surprise of the season, looks like they have a decent mix except for STD and no goalie. Another problem....scoring. 2 own goal victories thus far against weak teams, must be better to stay on top.

Rangers....12 new guys and a 6th place standing at half is not to bad, but not that great either as we are winles in 5 . Have been good at times, terrible at others. Need to score and maybe their luck will shift. Currently buying new clothing so watch out for a well dressed squad in the second half!

Poco....should have gone over 35 if they were not going to practice this year. Could be a tough second half, but will still give teams fits as they have some experienced players.

Port Moody....not far off from being a mid-pack team, still need work and some experience. Will be a tough win team in the second half.

Others, well I think it already has been said. Not much change from the first half of the season.

Lock of the second half, Rangers to be present at tuesday night training sessions!!!
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Pretty accurate report there Milhouse. I'd like to give a little from my point of view.

Aldergrove: A very good team. They really don't have anybody that stands out to me, but they play a very good team game. Tough to play aginst as always. They don't get the prettiest wins, but they get them! The team to beat so far.

Dewdney: We are having a decent season. One bad loss (which i wasn't there for) and a lucky tie against the Rangers. We still need more weapons up front. But we're improving. The ball movement is getting better. Alot less kick and run this year than last. If you fall asleep against us, we'll hurt you. As we did with Aldergrove. Two mistakes by their backline = 2 goals by us.

Sporting and Langley: I was away fishing for those two games, so i can't comment on either as I haven't seen them yet. Sporting seems like a bit of a suprise though.

Players: Look a little like a fish out of water. If they can manage to stay up, they will improve. They look good at times, but have a difficult time maintaining it. Decent ball movement from the back to the mid, but as soon as they need to get creative up front, they lose it. Back to Div. 2 would be my prediction for them.

Black Nights: From what i've seen, their ball movement is among the best in the league. They seem to get frustrated very quick if things aren't going their way though. That is probably why they've lost points they should have taken. Always a dangerous team though. Difficult to play against, as they always get up for us. Should be a great one this weekend.

Moody: Decent, young team. Have a couple guys that can hurt you. Definately better than last year. I can see them being in this Div. for a couple of years, getting better every year. Gotta get better in the offensive third though. They tend to send it to their front runners, and then lose it.

Rangers: Not the same, but still a very good team. Good ball movement from the back to the front, but it looks like they're having a tough time finishing. But that will come with the skill they have. Goalkeeping can be so important at this level. If they get it, watch out. If they don't, they won't move up the standings. Look for them in the second half of the season to move up the standings to where they belong. Top 3.

Raiders: Not the same team of the last couple of years. They have some good players, but not training is killing them. They were a little dirty at times when we played them and i was sure that a brawl was going to take place. But it calmed down eventually. If they practiced more, they would be tough team to play against. I think they need to help their keeper a little more. He's a good keeper, but his defence in front of him is giving up too many quality chances.

Highlanders: You guys are always solid. Maybe not the fittest team or the most skilled, but you always seem to pull out the results. Hard work and perseverance definately work for you guys. Can't believe you're still undefeated though. Hopefully we'll end that streak.
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Team GP W T L GF GA PTS--(current RECORD/SKILL grade)...POTENTIAL
1 Aldergrove United 9 6 3 0 19 8 21---------------A-...................... B-
2 DFC Razorbacks 9 5 3 1 28 16 18----------------B+ .....................C+
3 GEU Black Knights 9 4 3 2 21 10 15--------------C+.......................A-
4 Surrey Sporting 8 4 2 2 22 15 14----------------B .......................C+
5 DMU Highlanders 8 3 5 0 11 8 14----------------B....................... C+
6 SFC Rangers 9 3 3 3 14 12 12-------------------C-.......................B+
7 Port Moody Fury 9 2 3 4 15 17 9----------------B........................C
8 PoCo Raiders 8 2 2 4 6 14 8---------------------C.........................C+
9 North Delta Players 8 1 0 7 5 23 3---------------C.........................C
10 LUFC United 9 1 0 8 8 26 3--------------------C.........................C

teams not playing up to their full potential are the rangers and the knights.
these 2 teams will move higher up in rank as the season continues.

aldergrove/sporting/highlanders and razorbacks don't fully deserve their current records as they're playing above full potential due to lack of effort by other teams and some luck.
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All these assessments are pretty fair in my eyes. Every team has some strong points and weakness as shown in the results.

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This comment is the only one I think is crap. The results everyone gets are due to their effort on the day not luck. In a few cases I have seen this year luck is involved but most of the time you earn that anyways. All the teams you mentioned have something the Knights are in desperate need of which is leadership. If you guys can grab a couple half decent older players I am sure you guys would have a better record. Less bitching and pretty boy soccer and you guys would own the league. Definitely the most skilled team but that doesn't always cut it. Look at the top teams in the world and you will see that in most cases the skill doesn't win. Heart, leadership and balls tends to beat out all the pretty passes and crap like that. You need a mix and right now the Knights could use a bit more grit and leadership.
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(((aldergrove/sporting/highlanders and razorbacks don't fully deserve their current records as they're playing above full potential due to lack of effort by other teams and SOME LUCK.))))

This comment is the only one I think is crap. The results everyone gets are due to their effort on the day not luck. In a few cases I have seen this year luck is involved but most of the time you earn that anyways..
so you agree with me that it does involve "SOME LUCK".

then why is this comment crap when you just said the same thing? hmmm??
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suckit, I don't understand how you figure teams are playing above their potential and are lucky. If none of the top teams deserve their current record, where do you think they should be? It takes a good team to bring a consistent effort week in and week out. And a good team will also create it's own luck most times by working hard and putting pressure on the opposition. I think you might be mistaking effort with having a bad game. Some teams have all the effort in the world, but can't do anything right. It happens. Even in the pros it happens. And when the league is so close, like this one, any team can win on any given day. We've seen it this year already a couple of times. I think any of the top 6 teams can win the league at this point. It's too close to call. All it's going to take is a bad game by Aldergrove, and there's a bunch of teams right back in the thick of it. From what I've seen this year, all the teams are putting in a great effort. Even when we were up on the Players by a bunch of goals, they didn't give up. I give them all the credit in the world for that. They probably had a bad game, but it wasn't for lack of effort. If a team comes out in the second half and consistently plays well every game, they will be at the top very quickly. It seems alot of teams this year are up and down. Great one week, and then so so the next week. Well, except for Aldergrove, they seem to be good every week, and i think that is why they are getting the great results that they are. Someone needs to be great against them. Nobody has yet. Teams have been good enough to tie, and that's it. If some teams can find their consistency in the second half, it's going to mean that every game is huge. One lost point might be the difference between 2nd and 5th.
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suckit, I don't understand how you figure teams are playing above their potential and are lucky. If none of the top teams deserve their current record, where do you think they should be? It takes a good team to bring a consistent effort week in and week out. And a good team will also create it's own luck most times by working hard and putting pressure on the opposition. I think you might be mistaking effort with having a bad game. Some teams have all the effort in the world, but can't do anything right. It happens. Even in the pros it happens. And when the league is so close, like this one, any team can win on any given day. We've seen it this year already a couple of times. I think any of the top 6 teams can win the league at this point. It's too close to call. All it's going to take is a bad game by Aldergrove, and there's a bunch of teams right back in the thick of it. From what I've seen this year, all the teams are putting in a great effort. Even when we were up on the Players by a bunch of goals, they didn't give up. I give them all the credit in the world for that. They probably had a bad game, but it wasn't for lack of effort. If a team comes out in the second half and consistently plays well every game, they will be at the top very quickly. It seems alot of teams this year are up and down. Great one week, and then so so the next week. Well, except for Aldergrove, they seem to be good every week, and i think that is why they are getting the great results that they are. Someone needs to be great against them. Nobody has yet. Teams have been good enough to tie, and that's it. If some teams can find their consistency in the second half, it's going to mean that every game is huge. One lost point might be the difference between 2nd and 5th.
that's true, trapper.
first off, i just want to say that i hate the way you play your position.
thats probably cause you're good at it.

second, when i say some luck, im not putting any teams down. luck occurs naturally and can be accelerated with hard work ethics.
so i dont know where i'm going with this cause i'm still pissed from last night and don't feel like thinking for the next couple of hours.

anyways.
this is the way the league should be

1st knights/rangers
2nd rangers/knights

3rd razorbacks/aldergrove
4th aldergrove/razorbacks

5th sporting/highlanders
6th highlanders/sporting

7th poco/pomo
8th pomo/poco

9th players
10th lufc

or something like that.
i don't know,
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Thanks for the clarification there suckit. And thanks for the compliment, I think. If i new who you were, i would compliment you too. But that's kind of hard seeing as who you play for.
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knights all the way baby.
and yes, it was a compliment considering you're the all-time assist leader as a goalie in the history of soccer. and quite possibly will score one from your own net one day.(if you havn't yet)!
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I already have scored. . It was quite a few years ago, on a pretty small field, with a goalie that wasn't paying attention. He'll never do that again. Almost got one 2 years ago in co-ed. Ended up just wide. Not too many assists this year, it seems as though most teams have finally caught on to it. Ask the Highlanders about the 2 or three assist game against them last year. You think they would have caught on after the first one .

See you out there this weekend. Should be a great game. I know both teams will be up for it, as always.
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Well traper we are slow learners so maybe you should go over it with us one more time. You get the ball and kick it really far and Wade (who in case people haven't heard is kind of fast) takes the ball and puts it in our net. So other than hang our heads low and say wow that kids fast what are we suppose to do again.
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Don't play flat at the back. And certainly don't stand at center while you're flat. If that fails, just kick him. It works for a bunch of other teams apparently. At least that's how I'd play it.
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hey trapper, $$$$90 yard punts and 70 yard field goals$$$$
ever considered kicking for a living???
i've practiced against the lions punter and he can only kick it 3/4 the distance you can!
think about it, call me, i'll invest, you'll be laughing.
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So next time I kick him I'll say it is from Trapper with love. In fact if everyone says that lets see how long he plays for the Razorbacks.
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I kick him in practice all the time. He'll skin me, and i kick him. He knows that teams are going to kick him. He's used to it now. I've never seen a kid with so many welts and bruises. The Aldergrove keeper absolutely clobbered him when he scored on the giveaway last weekend. That keeper is a big boy. I'm shocked Wade was able to get up. I seem to recall that the Highlanders keeper nailed him last year as well. He just bounces back up. It must be nice to be 19. Wait until he's older, he's going to have a tough time getting up the next day after some of the beatings he takes.
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