Division 1 CAT 2002/2003

TheRob · 08-12-2002, 11:28 AM

I asked the question in the new Premier thread, and I'll ask it again here, "Who the fcuk is in this division this year?"

We'll have the mainstays like GEU, Poco, Surrey City, but who else is there? Even though we don't know, let's have another poll.

Any Division 1 CAT banter can take place in this thread. Should be an exciting next couple of weeks.

I wonder who we play Sept 15th

The poll will be updated when the teams playing in the division are confirmed.

Dude · 08-12-2002, 12:28 PM

Logic says every Premier team will have a Cat team, right? I hope that is the case this year, i.e.: teams like GN & Langley will be required to field Cat. teams.

Well see...

TheRob · 08-12-2002, 01:08 PM

GN never had a team last year, so I wonder if they will this year. My bet is they don't.

I should note for anyone reading and voting on the poll, teams in bold are not confirmed for the division yet. When they are confirmed, the bold print will be changed to normal.

Dude · 08-12-2002, 01:17 PM

The FVSL wants the Cat division to be 100% in alignment w/ the Premier division- as it should be. My guess is that the FVSL brass granted GN a one-year reprieve from the policy, sort of a honeymoon period, to come up w/ a plan where they would have a Cat team set up for this season.

Anyhow, one year is one thing, but if this carries on perpetually, it will sort of belittle the whole function of the Cat system, and look bad on the league.

It will be very, very interesting to see which clubs will be in the Prmier / reserve leagues this year.

Skytrain · 08-19-2002, 02:58 PM

With PoCo's cat has been greatly improved over last year and they would be tough to beat. The cat last year only had 3-4 good teams and now that the Rangers left, the two teams that will be at the top is PAU and PoCo

skytrainthinkstherobandyodawilllikehispick

Balsa · 08-20-2002, 11:10 PM

Not much to say other than Skytrain must be a PAU player to consider them a top team in the CAT.

Ations speak louder than words and PAU had no action last year unless they had help from their premier players.

Skytrain · 08-21-2002, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Balsa
Skytrain must be a PAU player

I'm insulted!

Balsa,

Could you explain the meaning of Cat Division? Didn't think so.

**Yoda** · 08-21-2002, 02:59 PM

Skytrain,

I think what he is trying to say is that they would have had to field a bunch of their premier team players and sit their CAT players to win games.

NO?

Anyways, who cares GEU will take the CAT division.

Balsa · 08-21-2002, 07:45 PM

No insults were thrown, just the truth. For PAU's CAT team to be strong they have to have their Premier players playing. The players on the CAT team alone are not strong enough to call them a decent team. Unless they have made some big changes this year.

Yes, I do realize that is allowed in the CAT but if my memory serves correct they were pretty much the only team that really used that feature and it showed when the premier guys weren't there. The top teams from last year did not use it regularily. Poco, Rangers, Highlanders, Golden Ears. They actually used their own players.

Cheers and good luck this season.

TheRob · 08-21-2002, 09:57 PM

Actually GEU only played one game that I remember with only CAT regulars. We only had 10 guys in a 3 - 1 victory over Surrey United. Things will be different this year though.

Skytrain · 08-22-2002, 09:18 AM

Balsa,

Don't want to be another to keep correcting you, but PoCo also took advantage of the Cat system last year. Was used about half the league games. As for the PAU Premier players coming done to play to beat your team, that only shows how weak your team actually was.

Milhouse · 08-22-2002, 10:51 AM

Train de la Sky,

I think what Balsa is pointing out is when PA beat Delta 3-1 in the beginning of the year it was with a number of Premier players. The second time the two teams played Delta handled PA easily 4-1, without their Premier players.

Without Premier players PA was an early exit from the Prez Cup too.

It is unfair to try and compare teams in the CAT div because of the Premier player rotation.

The Prez Cup results are a better comparison, but even that comes down to a 1 bad game and you are toast.

Oscar Goldman · 08-22-2002, 11:26 AM

Hey Balsa, I don't mind correcting you at all but it's usually about your choice of women. With regard to CAT I do believe that the essence of your comments holds true. The division lacked any consistency and the strength of many teams was left to the generosity of their respective premier teams. Unfortunately, some clubs (Surrey United) did not have any depth and were represented by two very poor teams in each division. In fact, combined I'm not sure that they would have avoided relegation from the 1st Division.

Regardless, I would think its about time the league sorted this mess out. The Delta Lions are currently without a division due to John Gaull's desire to leave Delta Metro. They could end up playing in Division 5 with their games scheduled for Wednesday nights in the receiving area of the Delta Shoppers Mall. John Gaull already has a crew painting lines onto the blacktop.

Get out while you can Brent Valente! We'll provide you with a lifetime's supply of ALPO and a miniature poodle that could be harnessed to Munster's underbelly to serve as a permanent "fluffer" for him. If not Munster, then Jensen has requested the Poodle's services.

Dude · 08-22-2002, 11:40 AM

Why do the Lions want to depat from Delta, anyhow? It it so they can make a run for promotion? Wouldn't it make more sense to try and broker a deal w/ the club- say, buy their spot off them?

I also think the league should get more involved in trying to resolve these types of issues.

TheRob · 08-22-2002, 03:37 PM

The poll is once again open for voting. We still aren't sure what the division is going to look like or even if there will be a CAT league but by all accounts, this should be close.

Vote away!

**rangerforever** · 08-26-2002, 04:02 PM

Lot's of chat in the CAT thread.

Highlanders, those POCO fcukers, and my sentimental favourites GEU to to round off 2nd to 4th.

Surrey City in a cake walk regardless of who's in the mix.

Surrey City Lions?

The Lions should be playing in the CAT division anyway.

Purrrr, Purrrr, Purrrr.....

Dude · 08-26-2002, 04:14 PM

Ranger: no poaching entire teams to join the club!

The last time SFC did this, they got a bunch of rowdy, old, opinionated, alcoholic has-beens from Delta. What have they ever won for us?

Oh. Never mind.

Stud · 08-26-2002, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oscar Goldman
Hey Balsa, I don't mind correcting you at all but it's usually about your choice of women. With regard to CAT I do believe that the essence of your comments holds true. The division lacked any consistency and the strength of many teams was left to the generosity of their respective premier teams. Unfortunately, some clubs (Surrey United) did not have any depth and were represented by two very poor teams in each division. In fact, combined I'm not sure that they would have avoided relegation from the 1st Division.

Regardless, I would think its about time the league sorted this mess out. The Delta Lions are currently without a division due to John Gaull's desire to leave Delta Metro. They could end up playing in Division 5 with their games scheduled for Wednesday nights in the receiving area of the Delta Shoppers Mall. John Gaull already has a crew painting lines onto the blacktop.

Get out while you can Brent Valente! We'll provide you with a lifetime's supply of ALPO and a miniature poodle that could be harnessed to Munster's underbelly to serve as a permanent "fluffer" for him. If not Munster, then Jensen has requested the Poodle's services.

Balsa and Oscar,

You guys going to get up for more than 2games this year!
If not it could mean a coaching change this year.

Maybe the Lions will be your feeder team this year?

You would only need one coach between the two teams.

Studly

Milhouse · 08-27-2002, 10:13 AM

Have fun trying to beat the likes of LUFC Clones and PoCo City Fury in Div3. Maybe the Div 4 ND Marauders can be YOUR feeder team.

By the time your in Div 1 again Valente will be 40.

Dude · 08-27-2002, 10:26 AM

Are you serious? Boy, some young teams really are shortsighted, thinking the "grass is always greener". From the outside looking in, it looked like they had a pretty good thing going there...let's be honest, they weren't tearing up 1st division. Hell...they were VERY lucky to beat the Royals in the President's Cup first round. The Royals were missing both starting strikers and one starting centre midfielder, but still pushed the mighty Lions to the final whistle, and only lost on a disputed goal in PKs.

It seems to me they were involved in a prety good club, and they were average- at best- in the Knight's league.

Don't get it.

View Poll Results: Who will win the FVSL Division 1 CAT League this year?
Poco City Dominion	16	37.21%
Golden Ears United	8	18.60%
Chilliwack FC	0	0%
Peace Arch United	9	20.93%
Langley United	4	9.30%
North Delta Lions	5	11.63%
Whalley Storm	1	2.33%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

08-12-2002, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
TheRob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The Flemish Cap Posts: 5,745 Images: 51 TTP Friends: (2)	Division 1 CAT I asked the question in the new Premier thread, and I'll ask it again here, "Who the fcuk is in this division this year?" We'll have the mainstays like GEU, Poco, Surrey City, but who else is there? Even though we don't know, let's have another poll. Any Division 1 CAT banter can take place in this thread. Should be an exciting next couple of weeks.I wonder who we play Sept 15th The poll will be updated when the teams playing in the division are confirmed. Last edited by TheRob; 08-12-2002 at 11:33 AM.

08-12-2002, 12:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Logic says every Premier team will have a Cat team, right? I hope that is the case this year, i.e.: teams like GN & Langley will be required to field Cat. teams. Well see... __________________ Om nom nom nom...

08-12-2002, 01:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	The FVSL wants the Cat division to be 100% in alignment w/ the Premier division- as it should be. My guess is that the FVSL brass granted GN a one-year reprieve from the policy, sort of a honeymoon period, to come up w/ a plan where they would have a Cat team set up for this season. Anyhow, one year is one thing, but if this carries on perpetually, it will sort of belittle the whole function of the Cat system, and look bad on the league. It will be very, very interesting to see which clubs will be in the Prmier / reserve leagues this year. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

08-19-2002, 02:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
Skytrain Member Joined: Aug 2001 Location: guarding the cooler Posts: 874 TTP Friends: (0)	PoCo to take Cat With PoCo's cat has been greatly improved over last year and they would be tough to beat. The cat last year only had 3-4 good teams and now that the Rangers left, the two teams that will be at the top is PAU and PoCo skytrainthinkstherobandyodawilllikehispick Last edited by Skytrain; 08-19-2002 at 03:06 PM.

08-12-2002, 01:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheRob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The Flemish Cap Posts: 5,745 Images: 51 TTP Friends: (2)	GN never had a team last year, so I wonder if they will this year. My bet is they don't. I should note for anyone reading and voting on the poll, teams in bold are not confirmed for the division yet. When they are confirmed, the bold print will be changed to normal.

08-20-2002, 11:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Balsa Member Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Following the beer cooler Posts: 303 Images: 4 TTP Friends: (0)	Not much to say other than Skytrain must be a PAU player to consider them a top team in the CAT. Ations speak louder than words and PAU had no action last year unless they had help from their premier players.

08-21-2002, 02:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Yoda Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Neither here nor there Posts: 4,496 Images: 21 TTP Friends: (7)	Explanation Skytrain, I think what he is trying to say is that they would have had to field a bunch of their premier team players and sit their CAT players to win games. NO? Anyways, who cares GEU will take the CAT division. __________________ The person with the fastest golf cart never has a bad lie.

08-21-2002, 07:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Balsa Member Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Following the beer cooler Posts: 303 Images: 4 TTP Friends: (0)	No insults were thrown, just the truth. For PAU's CAT team to be strong they have to have their Premier players playing. The players on the CAT team alone are not strong enough to call them a decent team. Unless they have made some big changes this year. Yes, I do realize that is allowed in the CAT but if my memory serves correct they were pretty much the only team that really used that feature and it showed when the premier guys weren't there. The top teams from last year did not use it regularily. Poco, Rangers, Highlanders, Golden Ears. They actually used their own players. Cheers and good luck this season.

08-21-2002, 09:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
TheRob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The Flemish Cap Posts: 5,745 Images: 51 TTP Friends: (2)	Actually GEU only played one game that I remember with only CAT regulars. We only had 10 guys in a 3 - 1 victory over Surrey United. Things will be different this year though.

08-22-2002, 09:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
Skytrain Member Joined: Aug 2001 Location: guarding the cooler Posts: 874 TTP Friends: (0)	Balsa, Don't want to be another to keep correcting you, but PoCo also took advantage of the Cat system last year. Was used about half the league games. As for the PAU Premier players coming done to play to beat your team, that only shows how weak your team actually was.

08-22-2002, 10:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
Milhouse Member Joined: Apr 2002 Location: Surrey Posts: 550 TTP Friends: (0)	I think therefore... Train de la Sky, I think what Balsa is pointing out is when PA beat Delta 3-1 in the beginning of the year it was with a number of Premier players. The second time the two teams played Delta handled PA easily 4-1, without their Premier players. Without Premier players PA was an early exit from the Prez Cup too. It is unfair to try and compare teams in the CAT div because of the Premier player rotation. The Prez Cup results are a better comparison, but even that comes down to a 1 bad game and you are toast.

08-22-2002, 11:26 AM	#13 (permalink)
Oscar Goldman Member Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Surrey Posts: 76 TTP Friends: (0)	Balsa's Babble Hey Balsa, I don't mind correcting you at all but it's usually about your choice of women. With regard to CAT I do believe that the essence of your comments holds true. The division lacked any consistency and the strength of many teams was left to the generosity of their respective premier teams. Unfortunately, some clubs (Surrey United) did not have any depth and were represented by two very poor teams in each division. In fact, combined I'm not sure that they would have avoided relegation from the 1st Division. Regardless, I would think its about time the league sorted this mess out. The Delta Lions are currently without a division due to John Gaull's desire to leave Delta Metro. They could end up playing in Division 5 with their games scheduled for Wednesday nights in the receiving area of the Delta Shoppers Mall. John Gaull already has a crew painting lines onto the blacktop. Get out while you can Brent Valente! We'll provide you with a lifetime's supply of ALPO and a miniature poodle that could be harnessed to Munster's underbelly to serve as a permanent "fluffer" for him. If not Munster, then Jensen has requested the Poodle's services. __________________ 155 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal

08-22-2002, 11:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Why do the Lions want to depat from Delta, anyhow? It it so they can make a run for promotion? Wouldn't it make more sense to try and broker a deal w/ the club- say, buy their spot off them? I also think the league should get more involved in trying to resolve these types of issues. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

08-22-2002, 03:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
TheRob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The Flemish Cap Posts: 5,745 Images: 51 TTP Friends: (2)	Cast your votes! The poll is once again open for voting. We still aren't sure what the division is going to look like or even if there will be a CAT league but by all accounts, this should be close. Vote away!

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Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Ranger: no poaching entire teams to join the club! The last time SFC did this, they got a bunch of rowdy, old, opinionated, alcoholic has-beens from Delta. What have they ever won for us? Oh. Never mind. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

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Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Are you serious? Boy, some young teams really are shortsighted, thinking the "grass is always greener". From the outside looking in, it looked like they had a pretty good thing going there...let's be honest, they weren't tearing up 1st division. Hell...they were VERY lucky to beat the Royals in the President's Cup first round. The Royals were missing both starting strikers and one starting centre midfielder, but still pushed the mighty Lions to the final whistle, and only lost on a disputed goal in PKs. It seems to me they were involved in a prety good club, and they were average- at best- in the Knight's league. Don't get it. __________________ Om nom nom nom...