Bundesliga 07-08

**johnnybluenose** · 08-17-2007, 10:24 AM

Hey all, I have taken to watching a lot of Bundesliga now that GolTV is featuring quite a few matches a week...
This week features Miro Klose and Bayern in his first return to Werden Bremen. 6:30am on GolTV...

should be a great game to watch and should be a good yardstick to measure just how far Bayern's spending has got them, I know they are deeper...but how much farther ahead of the curve, talent-wise, are they? I know they are amped up front with Podolski as third choice behind Toni and Klose now...

Ribery sure looks class too, but I think they will dearly miss Hargreaves.

**italian_stallion21** · 08-17-2007, 10:31 AM

I don't think they'll miss Hargreaves at all, I've watched probably 3 of their games already and they are stellar, the don't really have any weak links, and man can they put the ball in the net. It's going to be tough for anyone to match them this year, IMO

**johnnybluenose** · 08-17-2007, 10:36 AM

For sure they are loaded for bear offensively...But Hargreaves was class holding that midfield. Ze Roberto, Altintop, and Sosa will share the duties partnering vanBommell I guess.
Their defense is lightning fast though, especially up the wings with Lahm and Jansen.

But...this is why they play the games, you know Werder and their fans will be up and ready to go for this one.

Wolfgang · 08-17-2007, 10:50 AM

Read these forums but never post as noone wants to talk Bundesliga. There must be a GOD!

Johnnybluenose, you are dead wrong. They will not miss Owen at all. German footy is changing and Bayern are a prime example of that. Jurgen Klinsmann changed the face of football at last years WC. He promised the country a fast paced, up tempo, aggressive football and that is what you will now see from the likes of Bayern. Owen just wouldn't fit in. That loser can rot in hell with Man U.

Bayern will have to wait until next year to really find out where they stand amongst the great clubs. Until then UEFA Cup looks to be there's for the taking.

**johnnybluenose** · 08-17-2007, 10:54 AM

Isn't Klinsmann the next LA Galaxy coach!?

Who cares what he promised 'De Fazhaland' , he lives in Hollywood

Wolfgang · 08-17-2007, 11:01 AM

Lets just hope your minnow Gers meet us in UEFA CUP, cause you ain't going anywhere in the CL (if you make it)

**johnnybluenose** · 08-17-2007, 11:07 AM

At least we are playing the CL as of right now...and if all hell breaks loose we can parachute into the UEFA...it's nice having options as a 'minnow'

Wolfgang · 08-17-2007, 11:12 AM

The only reason you're playing is there are only 2 clubs in Scottie Land. Everything else is shite.

**Captain Shamrock** · 08-17-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

The only reason you're playing is there are only 2 clubs in Scottie Land. Everything else is shite.

How many teams have won the league in Germany since 1978/79? I believe only 6 teams have and out of those teams, Bayern Munich has won it 15 times. There are 18 teams compared to Scotland's twelve BUT you're right, Celtic and Rangers have dominated for a LONG time. Every league is essentially the same with the same 2 - 4 teams in the running to win it every year.

**johnnybluenose** · 08-17-2007, 11:57 AM

right on Captain. Germany is essentially the same as the SPL, just larger in scope

Keeper · 08-17-2007, 12:15 PM

I'm going to subscribe to GolTV today, so I'll finally be able to watch some of the Bund. Plus with the PVR, I won't have to deal with such unGodly hours.

**italian_stallion21** · 08-17-2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper

I'm going to subscribe to GolTV today, so I'll finally be able to watch some of the Bund. Plus with the PVR, I won't have to deal with such unGodly hours.

Next investment is the PVR, HD is great, but it needs a PVR for above noted reasons. Man I'm tired.

Wolfgang · 09-27-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnybluenose

right on Captain. Germany is essentially the same as the SPL, just larger in scope

That would be 4 more than the SPL. Do not compare the Bundesliga to the SPL.

**johnnybluenose** · 09-27-2007, 05:31 PM

4 more what!?
The SPL runners up (By a long way) just beat the reigning Bundesliga champs 2-1!!!

Does that not provide ample comparison material?

Now nobody here is under any illusions that either Rangers or Shellick could compete on any level with Bayern Munich (not with that lineup or their new need/love/will to spend money) but Schalke, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Werder (also terrible this year) and Stuttgart could all be beat by either sides of the Auld Firm.

Really, imho, the only leagues that are light years ahead of the other leagues are Serie A, La Liga, and the English Premier League (All Because of their HUGE TV deals that have rendered all the other leagues crippled to attract the top name talent)

Bayern has won the Bundesliga Title 18 times since 63/64 out of 44 years. that is 41% for those of you scoring at home.

I see another parallel to compare to the SPL.

In the 9 years that the SPL has existed since it's inception in 98/99 Celtic or Rangers have won it...Shellick with 5, Gers with 4. (5 after this season

)
Effectively speaking though...Gers have been around since 1873 and Shellick since 1888
Gers have won 51 League Titles, Shellick have won 41.
That is 92 in 133 years (some seasons were probably abandoned during war times etc... I don't know) but that is 70%
70% divided by two is 35% which is a smaller number than 40% so which league is more competitive?

Beat It Wolfgang...

**utah** · 09-28-2007, 12:46 AM

You do not stand alone Wolfgang.
FC BAYERN MUNCHEN

Buckfast · 09-28-2007, 08:01 AM

Hopefully, Wolfgang can help. Does "Bundesliga" translate to "fcuking boring" in English.

Why Ribery went to Bayen CrunchenMunchen is a mystery to me. What a waste of talent.

Lastly, Beckenbauer is a wank of the heightest order. Self-centered, boring twat. How womderfully German. As you were.

**italian_stallion21** · 09-28-2007, 09:44 AM

Last week wasn't 2 boring, if I remember correctly 8 of the top 10 goals on GolTV were from the Bundesliga

Wolfgang · 09-28-2007, 09:55 AM

Hey Bluenose, you are a wanker. You get one win against a terrible Bundesliga side and you think you are king sh%%. I gurantee Schalke and Leverkusen would kick your arse not alone my boys from Munchen! By the way, take a look, Stuttgart is in 11th place, tell me when the happless Gers or Septic would be ranked that low. Never!!!!! Do you want me to repeat that for you, you uneducated bunch of Scottie lads NEVER. Bundesliga is way more competitive than your dump league. Tell me when you have won the CL? Should I repeat NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go along now Braveheart!

**johnnybluenose** · 09-28-2007, 10:47 AM

y the way, the 5-0 rout of Energie By Bayern was something to behold

a hattie by Klose.

some sweet goals for sure...

Wolfgang · 09-28-2007, 11:07 AM

That was an extreme. 1st vs 18th (last place). Bayern also would be rated in the top 5 clubs in the world right now. we'll see how we do on the road against Leverkusen tomorrow.

08-17-2007, 10:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 3,367 Blog Entries: 2 TTP Friends: (16)	Bundesliga 07-08 Hey all, I have taken to watching a lot of Bundesliga now that GolTV is featuring quite a few matches a week... This week features Miro Klose and Bayern in his first return to Werden Bremen. 6:30am on GolTV... should be a great game to watch and should be a good yardstick to measure just how far Bayern's spending has got them, I know they are deeper...but how much farther ahead of the curve, talent-wise, are they? I know they are amped up front with Podolski as third choice behind Toni and Klose now... Ribery sure looks class too, but I think they will dearly miss Hargreaves.

08-17-2007, 10:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
italian_stallion21 Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 2,897 Images: 12 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 I don't think they'll miss Hargreaves at all, I've watched probably 3 of their games already and they are stellar, the don't really have any weak links, and man can they put the ball in the net. It's going to be tough for anyone to match them this year, IMO

08-17-2007, 10:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 3,367 Blog Entries: 2 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 For sure they are loaded for bear offensively...But Hargreaves was class holding that midfield. Ze Roberto, Altintop, and Sosa will share the duties partnering vanBommell I guess. Their defense is lightning fast though, especially up the wings with Lahm and Jansen. But...this is why they play the games, you know Werder and their fans will be up and ready to go for this one.

08-17-2007, 10:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Wolfgang Member Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Lower Mainland Posts: 186 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 Read these forums but never post as noone wants to talk Bundesliga. There must be a GOD! Johnnybluenose, you are dead wrong. They will not miss Owen at all. German footy is changing and Bayern are a prime example of that. Jurgen Klinsmann changed the face of football at last years WC. He promised the country a fast paced, up tempo, aggressive football and that is what you will now see from the likes of Bayern. Owen just wouldn't fit in. That loser can rot in hell with Man U. Bayern will have to wait until next year to really find out where they stand amongst the great clubs. Until then UEFA Cup looks to be there's for the taking.

08-17-2007, 10:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 3,367 Blog Entries: 2 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 Isn't Klinsmann the next LA Galaxy coach!? Who cares what he promised 'De Fazhaland' , he lives in Hollywood

08-17-2007, 11:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Wolfgang Member Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Lower Mainland Posts: 186 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 Lets just hope your minnow Gers meet us in UEFA CUP, cause you ain't going anywhere in the CL (if you make it)

08-17-2007, 11:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 3,367 Blog Entries: 2 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 At least we are playing the CL as of right now...and if all hell breaks loose we can parachute into the UEFA...it's nice having options as a 'minnow'

08-17-2007, 11:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
Wolfgang Member Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Lower Mainland Posts: 186 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 The only reason you're playing is there are only 2 clubs in Scottie Land. Everything else is shite.

08-17-2007, 11:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 3,367 Blog Entries: 2 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 right on Captain. Germany is essentially the same as the SPL, just larger in scope

08-17-2007, 12:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Keeper Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: - Posts: 5,532 Images: 1172 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 I'm going to subscribe to GolTV today, so I'll finally be able to watch some of the Bund. Plus with the PVR, I won't have to deal with such unGodly hours. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-27-2007, 05:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 3,367 Blog Entries: 2 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 4 more what!? The SPL runners up (By a long way) just beat the reigning Bundesliga champs 2-1!!! Does that not provide ample comparison material? Now nobody here is under any illusions that either Rangers or Shellick could compete on any level with Bayern Munich (not with that lineup or their new need/love/will to spend money) but Schalke, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Werder (also terrible this year) and Stuttgart could all be beat by either sides of the Auld Firm. Really, imho, the only leagues that are light years ahead of the other leagues are Serie A, La Liga, and the English Premier League (All Because of their HUGE TV deals that have rendered all the other leagues crippled to attract the top name talent) Bayern has won the Bundesliga Title 18 times since 63/64 out of 44 years. that is 41% for those of you scoring at home. I see another parallel to compare to the SPL. In the 9 years that the SPL has existed since it's inception in 98/99 Celtic or Rangers have won it...Shellick with 5, Gers with 4. (5 after this season ) Effectively speaking though...Gers have been around since 1873 and Shellick since 1888 Gers have won 51 League Titles, Shellick have won 41. That is 92 in 133 years (some seasons were probably abandoned during war times etc... I don't know) but that is 70% 70% divided by two is 35% which is a smaller number than 40% so which league is more competitive? Beat It Wolfgang...

09-28-2007, 12:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
utah Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Langley Posts: 497 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 You do not stand alone Wolfgang. FC BAYERN MUNCHEN

09-28-2007, 08:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
Buckfast Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: YVR du Sudouest Posts: 1,786 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 Hopefully, Wolfgang can help. Does "Bundesliga" translate to "fcuking boring" in English. Why Ribery went to Bayen CrunchenMunchen is a mystery to me. What a waste of talent. Lastly, Beckenbauer is a wank of the heightest order. Self-centered, boring twat. How womderfully German. As you were.

09-28-2007, 09:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
italian_stallion21 Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 2,897 Images: 12 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 Last week wasn't 2 boring, if I remember correctly 8 of the top 10 goals on GolTV were from the Bundesliga

09-28-2007, 09:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
Wolfgang Member Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Lower Mainland Posts: 186 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 Hey Bluenose, you are a wanker. You get one win against a terrible Bundesliga side and you think you are king sh%%. I gurantee Schalke and Leverkusen would kick your arse not alone my boys from Munchen! By the way, take a look, Stuttgart is in 11th place, tell me when the happless Gers or Septic would be ranked that low. Never!!!!! Do you want me to repeat that for you, you uneducated bunch of Scottie lads NEVER. Bundesliga is way more competitive than your dump league. Tell me when you have won the CL? Should I repeat NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go along now Braveheart!

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09-28-2007, 10:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Cloverdale Posts: 3,367 Blog Entries: 2 TTP Friends: (16)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 y the way, the 5-0 rout of Energie By Bayern was something to behold a hattie by Klose. some sweet goals for sure...

09-28-2007, 11:07 AM	#20 (permalink)
Wolfgang Member Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Lower Mainland Posts: 186 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Bundesliga 07-08 That was an extreme. 1st vs 18th (last place). Bayern also would be rated in the top 5 clubs in the world right now. we'll see how we do on the road against Leverkusen tomorrow.