contraversy

highlander · 07-23-2002, 01:12 AM

The rules state in a shoot out that the shooters have to be on the
field at the final whistle one of the penalty takers for germany against india wasnt on the field ,he was on the sidelines at the final whistle?.

did anyone else catch this!
Conner Macleod from the clan Macleod.

J_B · 07-23-2002, 02:02 AM

what player?

Name,Number, do you have any other info on that?

Even if that was true are they going to go and replay all the matches, I highly doubt it.

Cheers
JB

whataboutbob · 07-23-2002, 09:00 AM

Highlander,

What the hell are you talking about? The 4 Germans who took the PKs were playing at the end of OT. Besides, everybody at the park was on the field after that game.

**knvb** · 07-23-2002, 09:32 AM

You can never trust zeeGermans. Poland did and look what happened.

Guinness · 07-23-2002, 11:16 AM

Thank god for the Americans!!! Going over (when they did) and saving us all from the evolution of Krautism!!!

highlander · 07-24-2002, 12:25 AM

I have played in many games that have gone into PK's .
You know as well as me weave's that only the players on the field at the end of the game can take a pk.
Does it really matter no all pk's were clinacal but that is FIFA rules.
I think you have been riding those horses to much.
J_B It was the Zoo Man .He was subbed after Marcus got his Red

whataboutbob · 07-25-2002, 01:43 PM

Come On, Highlander........me thinks you crazy thoughts

**Captain Shamrock** · 07-26-2002, 12:08 AM

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You know as well as me weave's that only the players on the field at the end of the game can take a pk

A player can take a penalty if he/she is on the park during the extra-time. They don't have to be on the park at the end of regulation. I think that is what my Guatemalan certificate says anyway.....

As for zeeGermans and WWII, Neville's appeasement policy had nothing to do with the developments.....

I guess Daladier had some input too....Damn French...

CaptainwhoisjumpingbacktoHistory12whichhappenedtobeoneofthef ewcoursesIlistenedinperiodically

Jinky · 07-26-2002, 04:54 AM

Chamberlain should never have let Hitler take a penalty in the 1939 final.

Wooss.

highlander · 07-26-2002, 08:11 PM

The player in question was not on the park at the end of the o.t.
It was my observation that is why I asked if anybody else caught
it.

Highlanderneverwantstobearef

**Captain Shamrock** · 07-26-2002, 08:54 PM

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The player in question was not on the park at the end of the o.t.

If that is the case, the fcuking Germans cheated and should have the trophy taken away. They cheated the Polish, the Czechs, Brits(not that that is a bad thing), and the French and now they have scammed the best local amateur tournament in the province. I guess they will give the trophy back and hang their heads in shame. I know if Ireland 'cheated' like that and didn't realise it until it was brought to our attention after the fact, we would give it back.........

Just raising a valid point

Guinness · 07-27-2002, 12:49 PM

Zee fcuking Germans did it again!!!

Smiles · 07-28-2002, 01:03 AM

Hightimes,

All shooters, even the ones you had at the game, were on the field at the end of O.T. I know TTP has been slow but I think in your state you could have come up with something better then this. File this one in the fiction category down at the library.

If you want to start a controversy try something you might be familiar with. For example, does Darkside of the Moon really go with the Wizard of OZ. To me your opinion on a subject like this would really mean something.

End of Controversy,

Smiles

**Captain Shamrock** · 07-28-2002, 03:23 AM

Smiles,

Your last post was moot because you have no proof that your players were on the field legitimately. Therefore, I believe Germany should give the trophy back.....

A Curious Captain

Smiles · 07-28-2002, 04:44 AM

Cap,

According to your logic the whole tournament is moot because no one can prove anybody was there. I don’t remember sign in sheets, player cards, boot check. I do remember seeing our four shooters on the field at the end of O.T. Apparently not good enough though. Here's a new one maybe are fifth shooter was going to be Nuke, you know the one who got the red. That’s some real controversy. Good thing we only went four. Cap, I do agree I think everyone who has won a Nations cup should return it unless they can prove they were there. I will put things in motion. You round up Irelands cups, should not be that hard only a couple floating around. I will get a panel together to judge material that past winners submit to try and reclaim their cup. Should the proof have to be post marked. Let me know what you think.

On the case,

Smiles

**Captain Shamrock** · 07-28-2002, 10:16 AM

Smiles,

My toungue was firmly planted in my cheek when I made my last few posts. Congratulations on the win. I didn't see the final because the beer garden was in the way, so I can't say anything about the final. Except, Germany cheated in the game.

Captain

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I will put things in motion. You round up Irelands cups, should not be that hard only a couple floating around

I could be wrong here but Germany has 2 cups which happens to be the same as Ireland's total. On top of that, the 1999 champions, Ireland, WAS the best team EVER assembled at the Nations Cup. Take that to the bank.

Smiles · 07-28-2002, 11:27 AM

Cap,

Germany has won the tournament 4 times. I understand how this can be confusing. I see how the number 2 keeps coming up. We have won it 2 years in a row. Also we have won it twice as many times as Ireland. I will start to research the 1999 Ireland team for you though. Right now things are not looking good, the panel and I are having problems finding any information if anybody from Ireland was even on the field in 1999. Therefore your last post would be moot because you have no proof that your players were on the field legitimately in 1999.

Roundandroundwego,

Smiles

**Captain Shamrock** · 07-28-2002, 11:41 AM

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Germany has won the tournament 4 times. I understand how this can be confusing. I see how the number 2 keeps coming up. We have won it 2 years in a row. Also we have won it twice as many times as Ireland

Bastard. I have no response.

BTW, how German are you, Smiles? I'm guessing about as German as I am? When did Germany win it back to back before the last two years? It must have been quite some time ago....

CaptainwhocoachedthebestNationsCupteameverin1999

Smiles · 07-29-2002, 03:18 PM

Cap,

1.Ireland was solid in 1999. I should know, you beat us on your way to the title. No dispute.

2. All shooters in all on our shootouts were on the field in O.T. along with the GK ; if that becomes an issue later I thought I should deal with it now.

3. Smiles German Status. Mom born in Germany then moved to the U.S. when she was in her thirties. My mom’s side of my family all still live over there. I have been their 5 times played over there a little; nothing to note. I speak a little as well. My dad is Croatian. I am 50/50. I think I qualify for the cup. I would say over 80% of the German team is totally legit as well.

Cheers,

Smiles

**Captain Shamrock** · 07-29-2002, 03:38 PM

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I would say over 80% of the German team is totally legit as well.

Is your nose growing as you type?

As for your other points, thanks for the family background. I certainly feel better about everything now.

Putting this to rest, congratulations to Germany for repeating.

07-23-2002, 01:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
highlander Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: mission Posts: 129 TTP Friends: (0)	contraversy The rules state in a shoot out that the shooters have to be on the field at the final whistle one of the penalty takers for germany against india wasnt on the field ,he was on the sidelines at the final whistle?. did anyone else catch this! Conner Macleod from the clan Macleod.

07-23-2002, 02:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
J_B Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where I can afford it Posts: 777 Images: 3 TTP Friends: (0)	highlander what player? Name,Number, do you have any other info on that? Even if that was true are they going to go and replay all the matches, I highly doubt it. Cheers JB

07-23-2002, 09:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
whataboutbob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Steveston Posts: 1,463 TTP Friends: (0)	Huh??? Highlander, What the hell are you talking about? The 4 Germans who took the PKs were playing at the end of OT. Besides, everybody at the park was on the field after that game.

07-23-2002, 11:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Guinness Member Joined: Sep 2001 Location: crossing my T's & dotting my I's Posts: 3,407 Images: 1 TTP Friends: (2)	Daft Polacks!!! Thank god for the Americans!!! Going over (when they did) and saving us all from the evolution of Krautism!!! __________________ AVATAR enlarged: http://www.takethepiss.com/multimedi...s&cutoffdate=1

07-24-2002, 12:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
highlander Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: mission Posts: 129 TTP Friends: (0)	Who cares who was on the field I have played in many games that have gone into PK's . You know as well as me weave's that only the players on the field at the end of the game can take a pk. Does it really matter no all pk's were clinacal but that is FIFA rules. I think you have been riding those horses to much. J_B It was the Zoo Man .He was subbed after Marcus got his Red

07-23-2002, 09:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
knvb Kick'n it old school... A Total Bastard Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Langley Posts: 10,573 Images: 229 TTP Friends: (6)	You can never trust zeeGermans. Poland did and look what happened.

07-25-2002, 01:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
whataboutbob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Steveston Posts: 1,463 TTP Friends: (0)	Huh??? Come On, Highlander........me thinks you crazy thoughts

07-26-2002, 04:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jinky Member Joined: Jun 2001 Location: locally Posts: 2,993 Images: 28 TTP Friends: (0)	Chamberlain should never have let Hitler take a penalty in the 1939 final. Wooss.

07-26-2002, 08:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
highlander Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: mission Posts: 129 TTP Friends: (0)	end of regulation/end of o.t. The player in question was not on the park at the end of the o.t. It was my observation that is why I asked if anybody else caught it. Highlanderneverwantstobearef

07-27-2002, 12:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Guinness Member Joined: Sep 2001 Location: crossing my T's & dotting my I's Posts: 3,407 Images: 1 TTP Friends: (2)	Offside!!! Zee fcuking Germans did it again!!! __________________ AVATAR enlarged: http://www.takethepiss.com/multimedi...s&cutoffdate=1

07-28-2002, 01:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
Smiles Member Joined: Oct 2001 Location: At The Border Posts: 134 TTP Friends: (0)	Hightimes Hightimes, All shooters, even the ones you had at the game, were on the field at the end of O.T. I know TTP has been slow but I think in your state you could have come up with something better then this. File this one in the fiction category down at the library. If you want to start a controversy try something you might be familiar with. For example, does Darkside of the Moon really go with the Wizard of OZ. To me your opinion on a subject like this would really mean something. End of Controversy, Smiles

07-28-2002, 03:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
Captain Shamrock Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Richmond Posts: 11,538 TTP Friends: (2)	Smiles, Your last post was moot because you have no proof that your players were on the field legitimately. Therefore, I believe Germany should give the trophy back..... A Curious Captain

07-28-2002, 04:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
Smiles Member Joined: Oct 2001 Location: At The Border Posts: 134 TTP Friends: (0)	Moot Nations Cup Cap, According to your logic the whole tournament is moot because no one can prove anybody was there. I don’t remember sign in sheets, player cards, boot check. I do remember seeing our four shooters on the field at the end of O.T. Apparently not good enough though. Here's a new one maybe are fifth shooter was going to be Nuke, you know the one who got the red. That’s some real controversy. Good thing we only went four. Cap, I do agree I think everyone who has won a Nations cup should return it unless they can prove they were there. I will put things in motion. You round up Irelands cups, should not be that hard only a couple floating around. I will get a panel together to judge material that past winners submit to try and reclaim their cup. Should the proof have to be post marked. Let me know what you think. On the case, Smiles

07-28-2002, 11:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
Smiles Member Joined: Oct 2001 Location: At The Border Posts: 134 TTP Friends: (0)	2 times, 2 in a row Cap, Germany has won the tournament 4 times. I understand how this can be confusing. I see how the number 2 keeps coming up. We have won it 2 years in a row. Also we have won it twice as many times as Ireland. I will start to research the 1999 Ireland team for you though. Right now things are not looking good, the panel and I are having problems finding any information if anybody from Ireland was even on the field in 1999. Therefore your last post would be moot because you have no proof that your players were on the field legitimately in 1999. Roundandroundwego, Smiles

07-29-2002, 03:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
Smiles Member Joined: Oct 2001 Location: At The Border Posts: 134 TTP Friends: (0)	Facts Cap, 1.Ireland was solid in 1999. I should know, you beat us on your way to the title. No dispute. 2. All shooters in all on our shootouts were on the field in O.T. along with the GK ; if that becomes an issue later I thought I should deal with it now. 3. Smiles German Status. Mom born in Germany then moved to the U.S. when she was in her thirties. My mom’s side of my family all still live over there. I have been their 5 times played over there a little; nothing to note. I speak a little as well. My dad is Croatian. I am 50/50. I think I qualify for the cup. I would say over 80% of the German team is totally legit as well. Cheers, Smiles

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