Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007

Keeper · 03-19-2007, 12:52 AM

For anyone who missed it....

YouTube - Tootoo hit on Robidas Mar 17 2007

1. The hit on Modano was hardly "going after their star player". He knocked him off his feet. Little else.

2. Robidas was going in to protect his capitain and star player. He had both arms up and was aiming for Tootoo's neck/head. Tootoo saw it coming over his right shoulder (you can see him looking) and threw his haymaker in defense. Robidas suffered the misfortune of skating straight into it.

Tootoo will get 3 games because the stretcher had to come out. But should he get anything? I don't think so.

**The Franchise** · 03-19-2007, 01:13 AM

That was awesome!!! Best punch I've seen all year!

They should of just used a shovel

toddyboi · 03-19-2007, 01:51 AM

what a punch...

TheRob · 03-19-2007, 07:50 AM

Cheap shot. Cheap shot from a cheap player.

Doesn't suprise me that you thought it was great Franchise. You are a Tucker fan. Enough said.

Dude · 03-19-2007, 08:17 AM

Nice punch- for a sucker punch.

Tootoo saw him coming and could have protected himself in a half dozen different scenarios I can think of besides pulling off a cheap sucker punch round-house.

3 games? Try the rest of the season and playoffs. Blatant disrespect for Robidas, and a head-shot to boot. If Simon got the rest of the season, so should Tootoo.

**Regs** · 03-19-2007, 09:30 AM

If anyone should get to sit the rest of the year and playoffs, it is Modano.

Watch closely after 'the punch'...

Robidas hit Tootoo with a shot to the head at about the same time as he got 'the punch'.

Dude · 03-19-2007, 09:40 AM

It wasn't a head shot though, Regs. Fact is, Robidas didn't make contact. It looked like he was intending to two hand Tootoo the way he was skating towards him, but he never made contact. He can't be punished for something he didn't accomplish doing. Tootoo saw him coming, and could have side stepped him, dropped his gloves, and fought face-to-face...but he didn't. he took the chicken shit route.

As for Modano, his swing wasn't a head shot either. Yes, he should face the music, but since it wasn't a head-shot you can't put it in the same category as the Tootoo shot, or Simon's.

**Regs** · 03-19-2007, 09:53 AM

Modano's swung his stick at the head, that's pretty clear... if Tootoo hadn't bent over, he would have taken it full force on the noggin rather than the glancing blow.

All 3 clearly had the intent to hit the other to the head. 2 missed and one connected.

Dude · 03-19-2007, 10:05 AM

Well, how can you prove the intent to injure?

Robidas missed...his actions were the equivalent of soccer players who go running into a scrum with "intent", only to pull back at the last second and resort to hand-bags at 5 paces. You may be able to give a light suspension on "intent", but that's all.

Modano...he actually made contact, but do we know if he diverted intentionally? We don't. Give him 10 or something mid range for nasty stick work.

Tootoo...his was a full blown chicken shit cheep shot to the head, with intent to maim. Throw the book at him.

The league needs to send a message to these types of players by removing the instigator.

Dude · 03-19-2007, 10:07 AM

Looking at it again in slow motion, no doubt Modano was aiming for the back.

**Regs** · 03-19-2007, 10:19 AM

If I'm swinging my stick at someone, it's not rocket science to figure out I'm trying to hurt the other dude.

Dude · 03-19-2007, 11:18 AM

Back and head are totally different areas though. If I'm swinging, I know fully well that I'd better hit on the back (where there is armour), and not on the head or neck.

If you hit someone on the back, with the protection they have, it is nothing but a love tap. The head though...look at McSorely / Brashear.

**The Franchise** · 03-19-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRob

Cheap shot. Cheap shot from a cheap player.

Doesn't suprise me that you thought it was great Franchise. You are a Tucker fan. Enough said.

Cheap shot? are u for real...

Tucker, oh you mean the guy who has sat for 26 games and still better then Naslund....I get it. Point taken.

**The Franchise** · 03-19-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude

Looking at it again in slow motion, no doubt Modano was aiming for the back.

it doesn't matter wear he hits him....still swung his stick!

Tootoo then protectd himself by knocking Robidas out.....if he didn't want action, he shouldn't have come at Tootoo full bore.

lets suspend the coachs to....why would they put these two goons on the ice, i mean tootoo and Modano had full intentions of stirring things up I blame the GM's for signing both of them.

I'm on stike, if the Canucks match-up with Dallas first round, I say don't play them make a point!

Dude · 03-19-2007, 12:43 PM

OK, I'll bite.

I do this knowing full well Franchise that you are the single most unintelligent poster when it comes to anything hockey related.

That being said...what exactly would you call a sucker punch?

It has been long understood in hockey that a fair fight involves two players squaring off, dropping the gloves, and agreeing to go at it. Often one guy isn't as willing, but if the gloves don't drop, they don't go.

Now, granted, Robidas was skating towards Tootoo, but Tootoo saw him coming, and could have easily either ducked or sidestepped him. Instead, he sucker punched him with a gloved hand.

Not much different than Bert; same thing on Moore.

Punching someone when they least expect it is cowardly. How else can this be viewed other than a cheap shot from a cheap player?

**The Franchise** · 03-19-2007, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude

OK, I'll bite.

I do this knowing full well Franchise that you are the single most unintelligent poster when it comes to anything hockey related.

That being said...what exactly would you call a sucker punch?

It has been long understood in hockey that a fair fight involves two players squaring off, dropping the gloves, and agreeing to go at it. Often one guy isn't as willing, but if the gloves don't drop, they don't go.

Now, granted, Robidas was skating towards Tootoo, but Tootoo saw him coming, and could have easily either ducked or sidestepped him. Instead, he sucker punched him with a gloved hand.

Not much different than Bert; same thing on Moore.

Punching someone when they least expect it is cowardly. How else can this be viewed other than a cheap shot from a cheap player?

so brewer on cooke was cheap to.....pull your glasses up and sit closer to the tv and pay attention, it happens all the time. Tootoo was protecting himself, modano tried to hit him with his stick then Robidas skate full bore at him. If someone on the pitch kicked at you and then a another player ran full tilt with his arms up...what would you do..Drop to your knees or protect yourself?

Dude · 03-19-2007, 12:51 PM

You're a full bown idiot.

Besides, I hate Cooke for the same reason. Cheap player.

**The Franchise** · 03-19-2007, 12:52 PM

okay I watched it for the third time.

They both should be suspended, but Tootoo should get less then Modano. Mike should be gone as long as Simon....it shouldn't matter if he hit him or not....point is Modano tried to injure using his stick

**The Franchise** · 03-19-2007, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude

You're a full bown idiot.

Besides, I hate Cooke for the same reason. Cheap player.

what about Crosby or Ovechkin, because those two are no better then Cooke for being cheap.

Any other stars you want me to name that are cheap?

Yeah i'm the full bown idiot here

**knvb** · 03-19-2007, 12:54 PM

You're Tootoo, you've just creamed the other teams best player you turn and see Robidas coming in full tits looking to run you down - this all happens in, what 1 maybe 2 seconds? what do you do?

If it's a fat lip and not a KO is it a big deal?

03-19-2007, 01:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
The Franchise King of the PK's and a A Better Bastard Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Walnut Grove Posts: 3,406 TTP Friends: (32)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 That was awesome!!! Best punch I've seen all year! They should of just used a shovel

03-19-2007, 01:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
toddyboi Member Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey Posts: 1 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 what a punch...

03-19-2007, 07:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
TheRob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The Flemish Cap Posts: 5,745 Images: 51 TTP Friends: (2)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 Cheap shot. Cheap shot from a cheap player. Doesn't suprise me that you thought it was great Franchise. You are a Tucker fan. Enough said.

03-19-2007, 08:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 Nice punch- for a sucker punch. Tootoo saw him coming and could have protected himself in a half dozen different scenarios I can think of besides pulling off a cheap sucker punch round-house. 3 games? Try the rest of the season and playoffs. Blatant disrespect for Robidas, and a head-shot to boot. If Simon got the rest of the season, so should Tootoo. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

03-19-2007, 09:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 12,085 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (12)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 If anyone should get to sit the rest of the year and playoffs, it is Modano. Watch closely after 'the punch'... Robidas hit Tootoo with a shot to the head at about the same time as he got 'the punch'. __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

03-19-2007, 09:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 It wasn't a head shot though, Regs. Fact is, Robidas didn't make contact. It looked like he was intending to two hand Tootoo the way he was skating towards him, but he never made contact. He can't be punished for something he didn't accomplish doing. Tootoo saw him coming, and could have side stepped him, dropped his gloves, and fought face-to-face...but he didn't. he took the chicken shit route. As for Modano, his swing wasn't a head shot either. Yes, he should face the music, but since it wasn't a head-shot you can't put it in the same category as the Tootoo shot, or Simon's. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

03-19-2007, 09:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 12,085 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (12)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 Modano's swung his stick at the head, that's pretty clear... if Tootoo hadn't bent over, he would have taken it full force on the noggin rather than the glancing blow. All 3 clearly had the intent to hit the other to the head. 2 missed and one connected. __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

03-19-2007, 10:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 Well, how can you prove the intent to injure? Robidas missed...his actions were the equivalent of soccer players who go running into a scrum with "intent", only to pull back at the last second and resort to hand-bags at 5 paces. You may be able to give a light suspension on "intent", but that's all. Modano...he actually made contact, but do we know if he diverted intentionally? We don't. Give him 10 or something mid range for nasty stick work. Tootoo...his was a full blown chicken shit cheep shot to the head, with intent to maim. Throw the book at him. The league needs to send a message to these types of players by removing the instigator. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

03-19-2007, 10:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 Looking at it again in slow motion, no doubt Modano was aiming for the back. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

03-19-2007, 10:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 12,085 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (12)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 If I'm swinging my stick at someone, it's not rocket science to figure out I'm trying to hurt the other dude. __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

03-19-2007, 11:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 Back and head are totally different areas though. If I'm swinging, I know fully well that I'd better hit on the back (where there is armour), and not on the head or neck. If you hit someone on the back, with the protection they have, it is nothing but a love tap. The head though...look at McSorely / Brashear. __________________ Om nom nom nom... Last edited by Dude; 03-19-2007 at 11:22 AM.

03-19-2007, 12:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 OK, I'll bite. I do this knowing full well Franchise that you are the single most unintelligent poster when it comes to anything hockey related. That being said...what exactly would you call a sucker punch? It has been long understood in hockey that a fair fight involves two players squaring off, dropping the gloves, and agreeing to go at it. Often one guy isn't as willing, but if the gloves don't drop, they don't go. Now, granted, Robidas was skating towards Tootoo, but Tootoo saw him coming, and could have easily either ducked or sidestepped him. Instead, he sucker punched him with a gloved hand. Not much different than Bert; same thing on Moore. Punching someone when they least expect it is cowardly. How else can this be viewed other than a cheap shot from a cheap player? __________________ Om nom nom nom...

03-19-2007, 12:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,300 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 You're a full bown idiot. Besides, I hate Cooke for the same reason. Cheap player. __________________ Om nom nom nom...

03-19-2007, 12:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
The Franchise King of the PK's and a A Better Bastard Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Walnut Grove Posts: 3,406 TTP Friends: (32)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 okay I watched it for the third time. They both should be suspended, but Tootoo should get less then Modano. Mike should be gone as long as Simon....it shouldn't matter if he hit him or not....point is Modano tried to injure using his stick

03-19-2007, 12:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
knvb Kick'n it old school... A Total Bastard Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Langley Posts: 10,594 Images: 229 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: Tootoo v. Robidas - March 17, 2007 You're Tootoo, you've just creamed the other teams best player you turn and see Robidas coming in full tits looking to run you down - this all happens in, what 1 maybe 2 seconds? what do you do? If it's a fat lip and not a KO is it a big deal? Last edited by knvb; 03-19-2007 at 01:00 PM.

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