Stadium Discussion thread 1.0

sedintwins · 10-23-2005, 01:37 AM

Stadium Discussion is an online discussion and opinion poll for the proposal to build a new soccer stadium in downtown Vancouver, and for the future state of BC Place Stadium. Raise your voice, give us your opinions on these issues.

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**Regs** · 10-23-2005, 08:26 AM

It can be discussed here, no need to direct people to another forum to discuss it, especially a Canucks forum

sedintwins · 10-23-2005, 01:25 PM

yeah, the thing is we also have a petition in support of the proposal.

**Regs** · 10-23-2005, 02:32 PM

I think it's enough that we are running free ads for the stadium here for people to sign up and show their support for the stadium on the official site.

GhostRider · 10-23-2005, 04:54 PM

Judging by the renderings - especially the photo imposed rendering - my opinion is that it looks very out of place alongside the surrounding neighbourhood. It needs a brick exterior.

**johnnybluenose** · 10-25-2005, 02:59 PM

I think it looks awesome, And I can't wait.

TheRob · 10-25-2005, 03:09 PM

I'm all for it, but I think they should build it at 30,000 right off the bat. 15,000 is just too small in my opinion.

**Regs** · 10-25-2005, 03:28 PM

Too small for the Whitecaps? 30,000 permanent is not on if you want an "intimate" atmosphere for the Caps on a regular basis.

And fcuk the Lions, if that is what you are hinting at... all B-mac and Ball could wank on about when the plans were announced was how it would be awesome for football - they didn't really mention soccer at all

TheRob · 10-25-2005, 05:17 PM

No. I wasn't thinking about it for the Lions at all. I just think if you are going to build a stadium, might as well build it right. A 15,000 seater is sort of a waste in my mind. Build it 30, 000 and do your best to make it feel intimate wven when it is half empty.

J_B · 10-25-2005, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRob

No. I wasn't thinking about it for the Lions at all. I just think if you are going to build a stadium, might as well build it right. A 15,000 seater is sort of a waste in my mind. Build it 30, 000 and do your best to make it feel intimate wven when it is half empty.

I agree as the facility will be used for other events throughout the year and they won't attract much with 15,000 seats. Just close off the top until the bottom is sold out then open up the top with a 5 or 10 dollar reduction in price, something along that lines anyway. Hell we might even get a few more national team games or even a summer team touring through here like Rangers FC.

Cheers
JB

Keeper · 10-25-2005, 08:35 PM

From what I understand -- but I can't remember where I read/heard it -- it will be a permanent 15,000 but always expandable to 30,000 if/when necessary. And that, I think, is a good way to go about it.

Six of One · 10-27-2005, 04:14 PM

I'm sure they did all their market research, but what is with the 15,000 figure? And expandable to 30,000? So it can double in capacity just like that? I assume it is an easy trasnformation? Are the 15,000 extra seats just sitting waiting to be moved into place? Do they crane in an extra deck?

I just think you have to start at 20,000 or don't bother. After my initial reaction of "cool, a new stadium", I found myself disappointed in the 15,000 number. It just seems inadequate, much like the new arena in Winnipeg that hopes to one day lure an NHL team back there. 16,000 seats or something there? If you are going to all that trouble on a brand new rink, make it 18,000 at least!

Keeper · 02-28-2006, 02:05 PM

Bruce hits the nail on the head: http://www.cknw.com/shows/realityche...ID=1&rem=13553

**rangerforever** · 02-28-2006, 02:11 PM

Unfcukingbeliveable.

Chilliwack Rapids A-League plans are officially on hold.

Dude · 02-28-2006, 02:56 PM

For those of us without sound, what is the synopsis here? I get the feeling city hall is dragging this through all sorts of red tape? Social issues holding this up?

trece verde · 02-28-2006, 04:11 PM

Dude:

City Hall wants to hold 4 public hearings about the stadium plans. This shouldn't be too much of a surprise to anybody; before going on their European vacat (oops, I mean stadium fact-finding-tour) Bobby and John mentioned this at their last press conference (the one announcing their and the CSA's new address).

Open houses are supposed to be March 6,7,8,11 at a few different locations downtown (Whitecaps website has details).

Not sure that there should be any social issues re this; the biggest issues I can see are logistical (ie how do you get construction material to the site and actually build it without fcuking up train traffic).

How they actually propose to get people into and out of the place (the drawings are rather vague on access points) gets revealed on their website (you have to dig a bit): there are two access points - the north end of Cambie St., and through the Landing Building (right beside Steamworks, and coincidentally, under La Señora's office).

Bruce Allen is STILL a headline-seeking pseudo-libertarian knob...

Trece

morbital · 03-02-2006, 09:44 AM

www.takethepiss.com

good site with a petition in support of the stadium
every sig helps

and 15,000 expandable to 30,000 is a smart move by the caps

to move from swanny where capacity is just under 6,000, to a 30,000 seat stadium is ridculous and doesnt fit with the caps current draw to games. the expansion to 30,000 seat would be accomplished with an upper deck

**Regs** · 03-02-2006, 10:02 AM

Second post and another link.

Fcuk off.

morbital · 03-02-2006, 10:11 AM

excuse me?, whats wrong with links?
isnt this a site for soccer?

Dude · 03-02-2006, 10:31 AM

Morbital / Sedin:

Simple...read the TTP constitution. All you needed to do was contact Regs ahead of time, ask for permission, and present your case. He's a reasonable guy. That said, this is also his site, and his sweat and energy keeping it going.

What you're doing is essentially advertising for free with that link. Yes, the site is "Friends" of soccer, but it is in direct support of a corporate entity that has over the years benefited by a LOT of free advertising on this site. Frankly, had it been my site, and somebody tried to take advantage w/ free advertising w/ out permission, I'd tell you to fcuk off too.

So, in a nutshell, good idea, but wrong approach.

10-23-2005, 01:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
sedintwins Member Joined: Oct 2005 Location: van. Posts: 2 TTP Friends: (0)	Stadium Discussion thread 1.0 Stadium Discussion is an online discussion and opinion poll for the proposal to build a new soccer stadium in downtown Vancouver, and for the future state of BC Place Stadium. Raise your voice, give us your opinions on these issues. <link removed> Last edited by Regs; 10-23-2005 at 08:23 AM.

10-23-2005, 08:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,866 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (11)	Re: Stadium Discussion It can be discussed here, no need to direct people to another forum to discuss it, especially a Canucks forum __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

10-23-2005, 01:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
sedintwins Member Joined: Oct 2005 Location: van. Posts: 2 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Stadium Discussion yeah, the thing is we also have a petition in support of the proposal.

10-23-2005, 02:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,866 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (11)	Re: Stadium Discussion I think it's enough that we are running free ads for the stadium here for people to sign up and show their support for the stadium on the official site. __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

10-23-2005, 04:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
GhostRider Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 45 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Stadium Discussion Judging by the renderings - especially the photo imposed rendering - my opinion is that it looks very out of place alongside the surrounding neighbourhood. It needs a brick exterior. __________________ Serenity, courage, wisdom.

10-25-2005, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Langley...for now Posts: 3,090 TTP Friends: (15)	Re: Stadium Discussion I think it looks awesome, And I can't wait.

10-25-2005, 03:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
TheRob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The Flemish Cap Posts: 5,739 Images: 51 TTP Friends: (2)	Re: Stadium Discussion I'm all for it, but I think they should build it at 30,000 right off the bat. 15,000 is just too small in my opinion.

10-25-2005, 03:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,866 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (11)	Re: Stadium Discussion Too small for the Whitecaps? 30,000 permanent is not on if you want an "intimate" atmosphere for the Caps on a regular basis. And fcuk the Lions, if that is what you are hinting at... all B-mac and Ball could wank on about when the plans were announced was how it would be awesome for football - they didn't really mention soccer at all __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

10-25-2005, 05:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheRob Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The Flemish Cap Posts: 5,739 Images: 51 TTP Friends: (2)	Re: Stadium Discussion No. I wasn't thinking about it for the Lions at all. I just think if you are going to build a stadium, might as well build it right. A 15,000 seater is sort of a waste in my mind. Build it 30, 000 and do your best to make it feel intimate wven when it is half empty.

10-25-2005, 08:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Keeper Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: - Posts: 5,532 Images: 1172 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Stadium Discussion From what I understand -- but I can't remember where I read/heard it -- it will be a permanent 15,000 but always expandable to 30,000 if/when necessary. And that, I think, is a good way to go about it.

10-27-2005, 04:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Six of One Member Joined: Jan 2003 Location: My place Posts: 102 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Stadium Discussion I'm sure they did all their market research, but what is with the 15,000 figure? And expandable to 30,000? So it can double in capacity just like that? I assume it is an easy trasnformation? Are the 15,000 extra seats just sitting waiting to be moved into place? Do they crane in an extra deck? I just think you have to start at 20,000 or don't bother. After my initial reaction of "cool, a new stadium", I found myself disappointed in the 15,000 number. It just seems inadequate, much like the new arena in Winnipeg that hopes to one day lure an NHL team back there. 16,000 seats or something there? If you are going to all that trouble on a brand new rink, make it 18,000 at least!

02-28-2006, 02:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Keeper Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: - Posts: 5,532 Images: 1172 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Stadium Discussion Bruce hits the nail on the head: http://www.cknw.com/shows/realityche...ID=1&rem=13553 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

02-28-2006, 02:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
rangerforever Fat Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Sep 2001 Location: Govan Posts: 3,926 Images: 3 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: Stadium Discussion Unfcukingbeliveable. Chilliwack Rapids A-League plans are officially on hold. __________________ Acumfegovan

02-28-2006, 02:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,122 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Stadium Discussion For those of us without sound, what is the synopsis here? I get the feeling city hall is dragging this through all sorts of red tape? Social issues holding this up?

02-28-2006, 04:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
trece verde Member Joined: Dec 2001 Location: lado este Posts: 1,544 Images: 9 TTP Friends: (2)	Re: Stadium Discussion Dude: City Hall wants to hold 4 public hearings about the stadium plans. This shouldn't be too much of a surprise to anybody; before going on their European vacat (oops, I mean stadium fact-finding-tour) Bobby and John mentioned this at their last press conference (the one announcing their and the CSA's new address). Open houses are supposed to be March 6,7,8,11 at a few different locations downtown (Whitecaps website has details). Not sure that there should be any social issues re this; the biggest issues I can see are logistical (ie how do you get construction material to the site and actually build it without fcuking up train traffic). How they actually propose to get people into and out of the place (the drawings are rather vague on access points) gets revealed on their website (you have to dig a bit): there are two access points - the north end of Cambie St., and through the Landing Building (right beside Steamworks, and coincidentally, under La Señora's office). Bruce Allen is STILL a headline-seeking pseudo-libertarian knob... Trece __________________ "Yer on crack Franchise leafs suck and I'm not signing you anymore" - KH on his way to Burger King...

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03-02-2006, 09:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
morbital Member Joined: Mar 2006 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 14 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Stadium Discussion www.takethepiss.com good site with a petition in support of the stadium every sig helps and 15,000 expandable to 30,000 is a smart move by the caps to move from swanny where capacity is just under 6,000, to a 30,000 seat stadium is ridculous and doesnt fit with the caps current draw to games. the expansion to 30,000 seat would be accomplished with an upper deck Last edited by Regs; 03-02-2006 at 10:03 AM.

03-02-2006, 10:02 AM	#18 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,866 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (11)	Re: Stadium Discussion Second post and another link. Fcuk off. __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

03-02-2006, 10:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
morbital Member Joined: Mar 2006 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 14 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: Stadium Discussion excuse me?, whats wrong with links? isnt this a site for soccer?

03-02-2006, 10:31 AM	#20 (permalink)
Dude Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Where my kids are Posts: 8,122 Images: 66 TTP Friends: (3)	Re: Stadium Discussion Morbital / Sedin: Simple...read the TTP constitution. All you needed to do was contact Regs ahead of time, ask for permission, and present your case. He's a reasonable guy. That said, this is also his site, and his sweat and energy keeping it going. What you're doing is essentially advertising for free with that link. Yes, the site is "Friends" of soccer, but it is in direct support of a corporate entity that has over the years benefited by a LOT of free advertising on this site. Frankly, had it been my site, and somebody tried to take advantage w/ free advertising w/ out permission, I'd tell you to fcuk off too. So, in a nutshell, good idea, but wrong approach.