Caps playoffs 2009

[johnnybluenose]

It's a two legged final now since the last few years the USL were diabolical in their decision making as to who hosted the final.

We got it last year although P.R. had the better record overall... The league wanted it in Vancouver as it would cost them little compared to what it would cost them to get the TV Trucks, announcers, etc to P.R. Instead of Vancouver.

Now they have just settled on two legged finals as they know nobody would show up at a neutral site and hardly any teams have any sort of travelling fans...

FYI: Teitur was an Assistant of Arsene Wenger for a while, I wouldn't be so quick to label him USL only as far as class is concerned. They have beat MLS Sides in the past.

[Dude]

Sorry JBN, you need to take off the Blue & White goggles for a bit. A two leg final is a joke, and speaks to how bush the league operates itself. Last year was a joke, and this is too. Very simply, they should send it to whatever city had the better record, full stop. I suspect that would be Montreal, given the Caps finished 7th of 8.

I really hate this "let's try and please everyone" solution. So PC, it makes me want to puke.

[Walks]

Sorry JBN, you need to take off the Blue & White goggles for a bit. A two leg final is a joke, and speaks to how bush the league operates itself. Last year was a joke, and this is too. Very simply, they should send it to whatever city had the better record, full stop. I suspect that would be Montreal, given the Caps finished 7th of 8.

I really hate this "let's try and please everyone" solution. So PC, it makes me want to puke.

Absolutely. Since when does a 'soccer final' anywhere in the world have a two leg 'final' ??

Fcuking laughing stock .........

[Regs]

And then later in November, the BC Lions will go into Montreal and win the EASTERN Final and go to the Ghey, ahem, Grey Cup.

[johnnybluenose]

Who ever said the USL was doing things correctly!?

I certainly never did. I was explaining the reasoning for what they did.

I am also not apologizing for them. This league is as bush as it gets.

The officiating is terrible, most of the teams are laughable.

You have a league where it is always Montreal, Vancouver, Portland, Rochester (not this year), Minnesota (not this year)and Puerto Rico that are the league, and then there are a bunch of teams from nowhere towns or from non traditional soccer places and they fail miserably.

FSW and FSC (us equivalent) push the league around for any exposure, and the league takes it (hence this years 2 legged final)

The teams leaving or that are going on a break are trying to figure out exactly what is going on with the leagues ownership, as the league has ownership, not a B.O.G. which are representative of the member clubs and teams, which is a joke... and why the owners have started their own group, to negotiate with the league, or start their own league...

Polska you are right that the Caps could lose the last game of the year and win, and yes that woul dbe weird, but it has happened elsewhere with teams winning their league after a loss, ie a hypothetical scenario where United need to beat Liverpool to overtake Chelsea, who lose to Arsenal, but Liverpool wins and thus Chelsea are crowned champions of the league, it could happenm I'm sure it has...

The problem is that this is a playoffs in a sport where the traditionalist see the ultimate prize as winning their FA cup or league. Playing a foreign sport to north america in our sporting worlds rules for schedules (ie playoffs etc) is hard to get to know.

The league is mickey mouse at best, which is why it is imperative this stadium issue gets cleared up soon, because USL Soccer is bullshit and the MLS is at the very least credible...

[johnnybluenose]

I guess at the end of the day it is the best soccer we can see in our city. I love footy so that is why I pay attention, go to games, and like talking about it.

I don't care how many of you say the VMSL premier is the same or just a notch below...It's not.

If any of you watched that game yesterday it was immense.

It is a team playing locally that is "pro" and I can't figure out why people have a tough time supporting it. Especially when the Nucks are as usual not living up to the hype (albeit only 2 games in) and the Lions are celebrated as "Big League" when they are most certainly not, ie Regs post above. The CFL is the equivalent or lower of the USL to MLS' = NFL

Pride is a bitch.

[johnnybluenose]

USL Update – Saturday afternoon 10/03/09 | Inside Minnesota Soccer

This is the latest news on the issues surrounding the League.

It looks as if these teams might start their own league of sorts for next year...


We know that it is likely that the CCL will keep either Montreal or WFC busy next year, and some barnstorming could be done as far as Vancouver and Portland with their run up to the MLS...

The USL is done if they lose Vancouver and Montreal along with Minnesota, Carolina, and Miami (meh)

[Dude]

Fair enough- you're a fan of the team, not the league.

This is all very confusing. So, where are the Cap's likely to play next year? And the USL, what is their plan, post 2011 when Vancouver and Portland are both gone?

[johnnybluenose]

Fcuk knows.

We were VERY fortunate to win the title last year considering we had HUGE home field advantage... That was very Mickey Mouse...

For next year, who knows... They could create their own league, but that would require FIFA, USA Soccer, and CSA buy in/approval. Could take a year, could take months...
This league's value is in the developmental leagues (PDL, USL-2, Super-Y, and W-League) The men's league is too big, too many poor teams, too big a continent to cover, travel is a bitch, etc etc etc.

If all were to stay the same I'd wager that Portland and Vancouver would try to start something up locally here from SoCal up, no further than Edmonton to Texas to the east, and Montreal could do the same with Charlestown, Rochester, etc... with 2 conferences that don't overlap more than a home and home... More games against teams geographically close.

Once Portland and WFC are in MLS Montreal could join the CSL? Perhaps the CSL (in it's previous incarnation) could be revived again?

liek I said... fcuk knows.

[Captain Shamrock]

It is a fcuking joke............

[Captain Shamrock]

It's a two legged final now since the last few years the USL were diabolical in their decision making as to who hosted the final.

We got it last year although P.R. had the better record overall... The league wanted it in Vancouver as it would cost them little compared to what it would cost them to get the TV Trucks, announcers, etc to P.R. Instead of Vancouver.

Now they have just settled on two legged finals as they know nobody would show up at a neutral site and hardly any teams have any sort of travelling fans...

FYI: Teitur was an Assistant of Arsene Wenger for a while, I wouldn't be so quick to label him USL only as far as class is concerned. They have beat MLS Sides in the past.

If Teitur is the MLS coach for Vancouver, I will like JBN's sack.

[Regs]

That's probably a typo you'd lick to keep, CS

[kjohnsob]

If Teitur is the MLS coach for Vancouver, I will [lick] JBN's sack.

sure as fcuk wouldnt take that bet.

[johnnybluenose]

Oh man

Awkward

I wouldn't take that bet either way, not that there's anything wrong with that... /waive limp wrist/

But I really wouldn't be offering to like/lick someone's sack if Teitur is the manager for the MLS incarnation of WFC... He is on the verge of winning title #2 (Yes, in a mickey mouse league) has shown really well in the CCL, has a team of youngsters that nobody thought would get this far, has helped wee Gordon Chin resuscitate his career, and has really young players Haber, Knight, Bonsu, Versailles, and others playing with savvy vets atthe top of their game.

I don't see anything that would lead me to believe that he isn't candidate #1 right now, since Bobbaduzzi has publicly said that at minimum he sees 6 or7 current Caps on their MLS roster right now, perhaps more.

[Regs]

Leg 1 USL Final
Impact 3
Caps 2

Caps play like crap in the first half and are down by 1

Second half, Nash gets a deserved red and somehow they manage to tie it up.

Montreal goes ahead 2-1 and then again the Caps tie it up.

Just when it looks like the Caps are going to 'escape' with the tie, Sebrango - who had just come on as a sub - scores the winner from the 1 inch line.

Not sure what tater-tot was thinking with the line-up he started, maybe he has been watching too many TFC games Where was Chin? I thought he had resurrected his career?

Nash put his team in a big hole and now sits for the return leg in Montreal.

Of course the Caps will probably win that game to force the mini game and end up losing in PKs...

[oranje]

So, when the second leg gets played in Montreal, the referee will be from Vancouver? Paul, Mauricio, book your ticket...

A little weird that leg 1 had a referee from Montreal, n'est pas?

Just talking optics here.

[bulljive]

Nice to see someone else actually feel that was a straight red card. 2 footed ridiculous tackle, maxwellesc. Also nice to see a ref with large enough ovaries to make a game changing call when appropriate. There was almost a scap right next to me as some young idiot flipped out after the red yelling fukc youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu over and over at the ref and montreal player before he started yelling at some 60 year old Impact fan saying fukc you you support these guys in his face. Montreal fan doesn't take any of it and says no **** you, original idiots dad tries to fight the old man. Bulljive steps in and says hey your all complete clowns and there are kids all over this place so shut your mouth and sit down....clapping for bulljive. Atmosphere was great as the 4 goals after that had the caps fans and montreal fans cheering in each others face. On a side bar Alexander Burrows was also a few rows away from me cheering for the impact, dirty french canadians.

[johnnybluenose]

too bad the Caps couldn't keep it up...

and I'm not going to moan about the refereeing, but I agree with Oranje, at the very least...optics wise, you can't have an official from a home province of one of the clubs in the final... Where were the yank refs?

If Bobbaduzzi isn't calling the USL office asking which BC Based official is doing the game, he isn't doing his job.

[chelseafc18]

Does anyone have the highlights anywhere?

[johnnybluenose]

Here ya go ya lazy bassa