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**johnnybluenose** · 08-10-2006, 10:52 AM

He does less work for the Caps, and his new company gets the pay?
I have heard through the grapevine that this could potentially have basically been a firing. Re signed rather than them firing him publicly

**Regs** · 08-10-2006, 11:12 AM

Well, he didn't really have a great track record in his short time did he?

Not too many of his initiatives did well and perhaps the poor crowds for the W-League Championships were the final straw?

We'll ask Lenarduzzi on Up Front Monday night... "Bob, why did you can Rocha?"

**johnnybluenose** · 08-10-2006, 01:14 PM

I don't know...
The women won the league, again.
The seasons tix purchases are supposeldy up 200%
The Men are in a good spot
The Stadium is still on it's way, as they have overcome all hurdles to date
And they have added more corporate sponsors.
As a President, if the football ops are doing well, and the business end is going great, you are doing a good job IMHO
I think his undoing may have been a public perception, or media perception issue...He repeated the same canned answers time after time and before long Lenarduzzi was the only guy on the Bill Good show, or talking to Christy Clarke, or involved in the debates etc... and he is the Football Ops Manager, not the president...

**Regs** · 08-10-2006, 02:00 PM

Out of your list, the only thing he had a hand in would be the corporate sponsors. Perhaps the season's tix increase as well, but how many of those are 'sponsorship perks'?

**johnnybluenose** · 08-10-2006, 03:11 PM

I don't know, that's why this is a good discussion

I know my ticket rep had me and my Friend into the VIP section on Comp tix one night, for the $2.00 beers, and all you could eat BBQ. It is stuff like that that helps us "little people" feel important, I'm not going to be sponsoring the team for thousands of bucks a year like Umbro or soccercity or Save On Foods etc... That would be Rochas area...and he seems to have done a good job there.
But I think the underpinning that came loose here was his inability to look competant in the media, perhaps, I thought he was a bit flaky on the TV and on Radio, but I'm a cynic.

**Regs** · 08-10-2006, 03:25 PM

Who would have been responsible for the "Nations Cup" debacle and the W-League attendance 'flop'? The move to Mojo when the writing must have been on the wall at the time?

**johnnybluenose** · 08-10-2006, 03:45 PM

There. You must have hit it on the head. That "Nations Cup"

was a joke, and the Mojo move seemed retarded, so much so that Peter Schaad had worked out a deal that he did the Games, but remained an employee of Chum, ie The TEAM

08-10-2006, 10:52 AM	#241 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Langley...for now Posts: 3,086 TTP Friends: (15)	Re: Vancouver Whitecaps He does less work for the Caps, and his new company gets the pay? I have heard through the grapevine that this could potentially have basically been a firing. Re signed rather than them firing him publicly

08-10-2006, 11:12 AM	#242 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,866 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (11)	Re: Vancouver Whitecaps Well, he didn't really have a great track record in his short time did he? Not too many of his initiatives did well and perhaps the poor crowds for the W-League Championships were the final straw? We'll ask Lenarduzzi on Up Front Monday night... "Bob, why did you can Rocha?" __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

08-10-2006, 01:14 PM	#243 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Langley...for now Posts: 3,086 TTP Friends: (15)	Re: Vancouver Whitecaps I don't know... The women won the league, again. The seasons tix purchases are supposeldy up 200% The Men are in a good spot The Stadium is still on it's way, as they have overcome all hurdles to date And they have added more corporate sponsors. As a President, if the football ops are doing well, and the business end is going great, you are doing a good job IMHO I think his undoing may have been a public perception, or media perception issue...He repeated the same canned answers time after time and before long Lenarduzzi was the only guy on the Bill Good show, or talking to Christy Clarke, or involved in the debates etc... and he is the Football Ops Manager, not the president...

08-10-2006, 02:00 PM	#244 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,866 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (11)	Re: Vancouver Whitecaps Out of your list, the only thing he had a hand in would be the corporate sponsors. Perhaps the season's tix increase as well, but how many of those are 'sponsorship perks'? __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

08-10-2006, 03:11 PM	#245 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Langley...for now Posts: 3,086 TTP Friends: (15)	Re: Vancouver Whitecaps I don't know, that's why this is a good discussion I know my ticket rep had me and my Friend into the VIP section on Comp tix one night, for the $2.00 beers, and all you could eat BBQ. It is stuff like that that helps us "little people" feel important, I'm not going to be sponsoring the team for thousands of bucks a year like Umbro or soccercity or Save On Foods etc... That would be Rochas area...and he seems to have done a good job there. But I think the underpinning that came loose here was his inability to look competant in the media, perhaps, I thought he was a bit flaky on the TV and on Radio, but I'm a cynic.

08-10-2006, 03:25 PM	#246 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 11,866 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (11)	Re: Vancouver Whitecaps Who would have been responsible for the "Nations Cup" debacle and the W-League attendance 'flop'? The move to Mojo when the writing must have been on the wall at the time? __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

08-10-2006, 03:45 PM	#247 (permalink)
johnnybluenose Sad Bastard A Better Bastard Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Langley...for now Posts: 3,086 TTP Friends: (15)	Re: Vancouver Whitecaps There. You must have hit it on the head. That "Nations Cup" was a joke, and the Mojo move seemed retarded, so much so that Peter Schaad had worked out a deal that he did the Games, but remained an employee of Chum, ie The TEAM

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