[Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter

**Hands of Stone** · 01-07-2005, 11:19 AM

Well the Pac Cup draw for the Valley has been done and all the first round match-ups have been set. Now for the Imperial in the VMSL. Top four teams from this tourney get into the B.C's along with the Top four from the VMSL Premier League.
As of today, top four in league are Inter (20 points), Burnaby (19), Slurrey (18), and Fireman and Sapperton with 17 points. So that would leave the rest of the Premier teams fighting for a Provincial spot by getting to the semi's of the Imperial.

All the teams that wanted to enter the Imperial Cup, had to contact the league by Dec. 31.
"IMPERIAL CUP: The time has come for our Division 1 teams to declare whether they wish to participate in the 2005 Imperial Cup or the Division 1 Cup. The deadline for making this choice is December 31, 2004. If Division 1 teams (regular or CAT) wish to enter the Imperial Cup, they must do so, in writing, by that date. If we do not hear from you, we will assume that you wish to enter the Division 1 Cup. If Division 1 teams do not wish to enter ANY cup play, they should notify us, in writing, to that effect."

Anyone out there know what Div. 1 teams are in, and who has chicken'd out and gone into the Div. 1 Cup?

Not sure when the draw is, but the first round was played last year during the first weekend of Feb. Pegasus won the Cup last year, for the first time, and then followed up that Cup, with a B.C. Cup, and even a National Championship in October.

Don't think they will be the favourites heading into this years Cup, based on thier record right now, and the way teams are knocking off each other from week to week, you never know who will be hot heading into this thing. Plus there is the top Div. 1 teams that have all the High Price help, they could be a factor, but it has been a long time since a Div. 1 or 2 team has won the Cup.
Perhaps Azzi can update us on Draw date, and date for first round games, we need something to talk about with all this snow coming down.

hos

**Hands of Stone** · 01-07-2005, 11:32 AM

So here are the Champs for the last 25 years, some fine teams in that list. I see Burnaby Lake is the last Div. 2 team in 1990 to win, and even a Div. 3 team won in 1987, the Mighty Queens Park Rangers.

1980 Columbus Umberto
1981 Cliff Avenue United
1982 Vancouver Firefighters
1983 Vancouver Firefighters
1984 Discovery ’84 FC
1985 Norvan ANAF #45 FC
1986 Norvan ANAF #45 FC
1987 Queen’s Park Rangers
1988 Dartmen FC
1989 West Van Trollers
1990 Burnaby Lake Clubhouse
1991 Vancouver Firefighter
1992 Club Ireland FC
1993 Club Ireland FC
1994 Westside Rino
1995 Wesburn
1996 Croatia SC
1997 Croatia SC
1998 Croatia SC
1999 Indo-Canadians
2000 Westside FC 'A'
2001 ICSF Inter
2002 Rino's Westside
2003 Westside Rino
2004 Pegasus FC
2005 ???

hos

Gurps · 01-07-2005, 11:42 AM

Was Club I in Premier when they won?

**Regs** · 01-07-2005, 11:51 AM

Yes... those were the 2 years before Sammy came in and cut everyone

~Regs.

**Hands of Stone** · 01-07-2005, 12:10 PM

They had some fine teams back then, Regs, Reedie, and Capt., but you should have seen some of the really good players.

hos

sid · 01-07-2005, 12:15 PM

your talking about WhataboutBobby right(good players).hearns was a mucker back then

sid

was craigger in nets,boy what a smoking keeper

**Regs** · 01-07-2005, 12:42 PM

Craig was backup back then... Ronnie Erkamps was in the net - one of the best I've ever played with but that's not saying much with HOS as an ex-teammate

**Hands of Stone** · 01-07-2005, 12:49 PM

Just shows how strong the league was back then, when you have a guy like Craig as back-up on Club-I. The league sure was competitive with 10 teams, every team had a strong 16 players, now we have the CAT system.

hos

Bronco · 01-07-2005, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hands of Stone

now we have the CAT system...

...and Khalsa.

Sorry CJ couldn't resist!!

**Hands of Stone** · 01-07-2005, 01:06 PM

Little trivia for everyone;

How many times has Croatia been up and down from Div. 1 to Premier since they won 3 in a row in the late 90's.

Bonus Question: How many own goals does Bronco have in Imperial Cup play?

Back at ya bigman.

hos

sid · 01-07-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hands of Stone

Little trivia for everyone;

How many times has Croatia been up and down from Div. 1 to Premier since they won 3 in a row in the late 90's.

Bonus Question: How many own goals does Bronco have in Imperial Cup play?

Back at ya bigman.

hos

once

1 goal

sid

**knvb** · 01-07-2005, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoS

As of today, top four in league are Inter (20 points), Burnaby (19), Slurrey (18), and Fireman and Sapperton with 17 points.

Total points are right but if the draw for the cup was today we would be ranked #1. Looking forward to making the final for the 5th time in 7years... and not winning it.

**Regs** · 01-07-2005, 07:46 PM

Didn't Azzi already post that Inter have been declared Side A Champs?

**Hands of Stone** · 01-07-2005, 10:46 PM

That is way earlier than previous years, Inter really must have a good team.

Smallsy

sid · 01-08-2005, 08:52 PM

Inter have just won the Imperial & the provs

sid

Bronco · 01-09-2005, 08:31 AM

Actually HOSSY it is once on the up and down and 0 on the latter. The own goal came in a Provincial Cup 1/4 final. Let's not take away from its infamy

Keeper · 01-09-2005, 10:03 AM

A list of cup participants has been asked for in a couple of different threads. Here you go:

Compiled December 27, 2004

Premier Teams
ICSF Inter ‘A’
Croatia SC ‘A’
Metro-Ford Wolves ‘A’
Pegasus FC ‘A’
Sapperton Rovers ‘A’
Firefighters FC ‘A’
Westside Rino ‘A’
Burnaby Canadians ‘A’
Khalsa SC ‘A’
Trollers FC ‘A’
AFC Leopards ‘A’
Columbus-Clan FC ‘A’
Sporting Club ‘A’
Surrey United ‘A’

Div 1 Teams
City FC Rangers ‘A’
Norvan SC ‘A’
PCOV
Richmond United ‘A’
Serbian White Eagles
Vancouver Lobbans ‘A’
Vancouver Olympics
Wickham FC ‘A’
City FC Blaze
Cliff Avenue United
Club Ireland ‘A’
Indo-Akal FC ‘A’
WFC Rangers ‘A’
Sikh Temple ‘A’

Div 1 Cup
AFC Leopards ‘B’
Columbus-Clan ‘B’
Metro-Ford Wolves ‘B’
Burnaby Canadians ‘B’
Pegasus FC ‘B’
Croatia SC ‘B’
ICSF Inter ‘B’
Khalsa SC ‘B’
Firefighters FC ‘B’
Sporting Club ‘B’
Trollers FC ‘B’ Firefighters FC ‘C’
IFC Sarajevo Meraloma SC
Norvan Primos
IFC Polonia

Deep Cove Royals

**Hands of Stone** · 01-09-2005, 03:12 PM

Ya, little surprised about Polonia, they don't have a bad young team, well except for TA and the bad red cards he takes.
But what about DeepCoveRoyals, isn't that the new Fiji team that is coached or run by Ivor, thought they would take a run at Imperial and see what they could do against some of the big boys.

But when is the DRAW, keeper?

hos

sid · 01-09-2005, 09:20 PM

the Apprentice was the backbone to clan bus

I would have 11 TAs on my team anyday

sid

cerebral smallsy · 01-20-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

THE CUP DRAW WILL BE HELD AT THE LEAGUE OFFICE ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2005 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE DISCIPLINE HEARINGS (APPROXIMATELY AT 8:00 P.M.)

list of participating teams also seems to differ from the previous one posted by keeper. polonia and deep cove are both in.

01-07-2005, 11:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,457 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (6)	[Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Well the Pac Cup draw for the Valley has been done and all the first round match-ups have been set. Now for the Imperial in the VMSL. Top four teams from this tourney get into the B.C's along with the Top four from the VMSL Premier League. As of today, top four in league are Inter (20 points), Burnaby (19), Slurrey (18), and Fireman and Sapperton with 17 points. So that would leave the rest of the Premier teams fighting for a Provincial spot by getting to the semi's of the Imperial. All the teams that wanted to enter the Imperial Cup, had to contact the league by Dec. 31. "IMPERIAL CUP: The time has come for our Division 1 teams to declare whether they wish to participate in the 2005 Imperial Cup or the Division 1 Cup. The deadline for making this choice is December 31, 2004. If Division 1 teams (regular or CAT) wish to enter the Imperial Cup, they must do so, in writing, by that date. If we do not hear from you, we will assume that you wish to enter the Division 1 Cup. If Division 1 teams do not wish to enter ANY cup play, they should notify us, in writing, to that effect." Anyone out there know what Div. 1 teams are in, and who has chicken'd out and gone into the Div. 1 Cup? Not sure when the draw is, but the first round was played last year during the first weekend of Feb. Pegasus won the Cup last year, for the first time, and then followed up that Cup, with a B.C. Cup, and even a National Championship in October. Don't think they will be the favourites heading into this years Cup, based on thier record right now, and the way teams are knocking off each other from week to week, you never know who will be hot heading into this thing. Plus there is the top Div. 1 teams that have all the High Price help, they could be a factor, but it has been a long time since a Div. 1 or 2 team has won the Cup. Perhaps Azzi can update us on Draw date, and date for first round games, we need something to talk about with all this snow coming down. hos

01-07-2005, 11:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,457 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter So here are the Champs for the last 25 years, some fine teams in that list. I see Burnaby Lake is the last Div. 2 team in 1990 to win, and even a Div. 3 team won in 1987, the Mighty Queens Park Rangers. 1980 Columbus Umberto 1981 Cliff Avenue United 1982 Vancouver Firefighters 1983 Vancouver Firefighters 1984 Discovery ’84 FC 1985 Norvan ANAF #45 FC 1986 Norvan ANAF #45 FC 1987 Queen’s Park Rangers 1988 Dartmen FC 1989 West Van Trollers 1990 Burnaby Lake Clubhouse 1991 Vancouver Firefighter 1992 Club Ireland FC 1993 Club Ireland FC 1994 Westside Rino 1995 Wesburn 1996 Croatia SC 1997 Croatia SC 1998 Croatia SC 1999 Indo-Canadians 2000 Westside FC 'A' 2001 ICSF Inter 2002 Rino's Westside 2003 Westside Rino 2004 Pegasus FC 2005 ??? hos Last edited by Hands of Stone; 01-07-2005 at 12:07 PM.

01-07-2005, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
Gurps Member Joined: Mar 2002 Location: SFU West Mall Posts: 901 TTP Friends: (1)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Was Club I in Premier when they won?

01-07-2005, 11:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 12,077 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (12)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Yes... those were the 2 years before Sammy came in and cut everyone ~Regs. __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

01-07-2005, 12:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,457 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter They had some fine teams back then, Regs, Reedie, and Capt., but you should have seen some of the really good players. hos

01-07-2005, 12:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
sid Member Joined: Dec 2001 Location: pocoloco Posts: 1,403 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter your talking about WhataboutBobby right(good players).hearns was a mucker back then sid was craigger in nets,boy what a smoking keeper

01-07-2005, 12:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 12,077 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (12)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Craig was backup back then... Ronnie Erkamps was in the net - one of the best I've ever played with but that's not saying much with HOS as an ex-teammate __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

01-07-2005, 12:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,457 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Just shows how strong the league was back then, when you have a guy like Craig as back-up on Club-I. The league sure was competitive with 10 teams, every team had a strong 16 players, now we have the CAT system. hos

01-07-2005, 01:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,457 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Little trivia for everyone; How many times has Croatia been up and down from Div. 1 to Premier since they won 3 in a row in the late 90's. Bonus Question: How many own goals does Bronco have in Imperial Cup play? Back at ya bigman. hos

01-07-2005, 07:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
Regs Respect & Honour A Total Bastard Joined: Jun 2001 Location: TTP Headquarters Posts: 12,077 Blog Entries: 1 Images: 233 TTP Friends: (12)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Didn't Azzi already post that Inter have been declared Side A Champs? __________________ Take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun (at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and wind.'

01-07-2005, 10:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,457 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter That is way earlier than previous years, Inter really must have a good team. Smallsy

01-08-2005, 08:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
sid Member Joined: Dec 2001 Location: pocoloco Posts: 1,403 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Inter have just won the Imperial & the provs sid

01-09-2005, 08:31 AM	#16 (permalink)
Bronco Member Joined: Oct 2001 Location: On the road to recovery Posts: 1,095 Images: 1 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Actually HOSSY it is once on the up and down and 0 on the latter. The own goal came in a Provincial Cup 1/4 final. Let's not take away from its infamy

01-09-2005, 10:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
Keeper Member Joined: Jul 2001 Location: - Posts: 5,532 Images: 1172 TTP Friends: (0)	Fyi A list of cup participants has been asked for in a couple of different threads. Here you go: Compiled December 27, 2004 Premier Teams ICSF Inter ‘A’ Croatia SC ‘A’ Metro-Ford Wolves ‘A’ Pegasus FC ‘A’ Sapperton Rovers ‘A’ Firefighters FC ‘A’ Westside Rino ‘A’ Burnaby Canadians ‘A’ Khalsa SC ‘A’ Trollers FC ‘A’ AFC Leopards ‘A’ Columbus-Clan FC ‘A’ Sporting Club ‘A’ Surrey United ‘A’ Div 1 Teams City FC Rangers ‘A’ Norvan SC ‘A’ PCOV Richmond United ‘A’ Serbian White Eagles Vancouver Lobbans ‘A’ Vancouver Olympics Wickham FC ‘A’ City FC Blaze Cliff Avenue United Club Ireland ‘A’ Indo-Akal FC ‘A’ WFC Rangers ‘A’ Sikh Temple ‘A’ Div 1 Cup AFC Leopards ‘B’ Columbus-Clan ‘B’ Metro-Ford Wolves ‘B’ Burnaby Canadians ‘B’ Pegasus FC ‘B’ Croatia SC ‘B’ ICSF Inter ‘B’ Khalsa SC ‘B’ Firefighters FC ‘B’ Sporting Club ‘B’ Trollers FC ‘B’ Firefighters FC ‘C’ IFC Sarajevo Meraloma SC Norvan Primos IFC Polonia Deep Cove Royals __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-09-2005, 03:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
Hands of Stone Premium Member A Better Bastard Joined: Jul 2001 Location: The NAP, Home of the Mighty Rangers Posts: 4,457 Images: 7 TTP Friends: (6)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter Ya, little surprised about Polonia, they don't have a bad young team, well except for TA and the bad red cards he takes. But what about DeepCoveRoyals, isn't that the new Fiji team that is coached or run by Ivor, thought they would take a run at Imperial and see what they could do against some of the big boys. But when is the DRAW, keeper? hos

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sid Member Joined: Dec 2001 Location: pocoloco Posts: 1,403 TTP Friends: (0)	Re: [Imperial Cup 2005] Pre-Tourney Banter the Apprentice was the backbone to clan bus I would have 11 TAs on my team anyday sid