Sorry.“First, I suspect the bid went to Victoria and not Surrey because the group looking to land one in Surrey couldn’t get all their shite together, but they could in Victoria.”
There you go taking wild leaps again. This is why people don’t like you.
First, I suspect the bid went to Victoria and not Surrey because the group looking to land one in Surrey couldn’t get all their shite together, but they could in Victoria.
Second....when will South Asians get equal playing time? Opportunities? Really? Take a drive through Surrey Central and tour the fields on any given weekend in the soccer season, make sure your eyes are open. When I was a kid, it would be Caucasian dominant. Now it’s South Asian dominant. 30-40 years of change.
I will never make a claim discrimination doesn’t exist for the South Asian Community. Man, you are treading on very thin ice with me there. My kids are visible minorities, half South Asian. My beautiful bride is 100% South Asian. She has faced it in her life for sure, she rises above it. She wins people over and changes their attitudes. I will never forget my Dad’s biggoted reaction many years ago when I told him I was dating a brown, Muslim girl. Let’s just say not positive. Then, he met my wife and she melted his heart. My Dad is a changed man and finally free of his bigoted ways due to exposure to my wife and especially my in-laws. My Father in Law was one of the greatest men I’ve ever met, and he changed my Dad for the better. I’m not proud of the preconceived beliefs my Dad had while I was growing up, but I am very proud he had an open mind, and changed his mindset when it came to being open to visible minorities. He may have been a racist before, he’s definitely not now.
Michael very clearly got most of the “Brown DNA” when he came out of the oven. I am far from blind or deaf, but we’ve also raised our kids to rise abouve it and always carry the pride for their culture and heritage. So no, I’m not South Asian, but my loved ones are. I get it. But you won’t hear my familly using the discrimination card as an excuse for failing anything they aimed to achieve. That is not acceptable.
"and as a city does not seem interested in accelerating stadium plans for a 2019 launch."Please can we keep this relevant to the CPL and not Soccercoachs racial analysis of Canada. Van Island has a stadium and are actively working to prep the stadium to be ready for a 2019 launch. Surrey does not have a stadium, and as a city does not seem interested in accelerating stadium plans for a 2019 launch. It makes less sense to set up a team in Langley or elsewhere than it does to get it going in Surrey when the city is more aligned (I see them coming in 2020/2021 when the league expands to 12 teams). "Shite together" is as simple as that.
"and as a city does not seem interested in accelerating stadium plans for a 2019 launch."
and the mayor of surrey and the city council happen to be:
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Can @Dude and @dutch13 confirm the ethnicity of the Surrey Mayor and council?
Interesting how a municipality that has one of the highest concentrations of South Asians does not have representation on the city council. Do you see the connection between race, politics, and soccer in Canada?
If the South Asians kids would matter for the soccer national project there would be plans to rush the stadium and have the franchise in place.
Didn't you just argue that the potential ownership group did not contain any SEA descent, and now you're arguing that the all white city council didn't want to play ball with the all white ownership group? Its tiring how you suck the life out of topics with your own agenda.
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@Dude,
1) I am not here to be Mrs. Congeniality or Mrs. Popularity. I am here to point out the elephants in the room, the uncomfortable truths that people are refusing to see.
2) I have taken many drives to Surrey Central. There is nothing exceptional. This is the way that the forefathers of the White Man's Province wanted it to be. Minorities segregated and congregated is less desirable areas of the Lower Mainland. This is why people are getting so upset with wealthy Asians buying property on Vancouver's Westside and West Vancouver. Those areas were supposed to reserved for the good people of British Columbia. Asians on the most valued real state upsets the social order and hierarchy that was envisioned for the province.
If people of European descent would be buying those properties, there would not be an uproar in the province. It would be business as usual.
3) If the National Team or the Whitecaps do not have people of Asian or South Asian descent in their roster is the result of social exclusion. It is plain and simple. It is the lingering effects of a century of overt racism combined with modern subtle expressions discrimination. There is nothing biological that would suggest that Asians or South Asians can not perform well at the highest level of competition in soccer. In fact, we do have evidence of the opposite.
Should I remind you that the National Teams of China, South Korea, and Japan play better than the Canadian National Team and are also ranked higher than our National Team?
4) You tend to personalize the posts. It is really not about you or your family. I am glad that your dad changed. However, this just proves the point. You were brave in defying the bigotry of your father and mother. It is also good that they changed. However, this is only one example, literally millions of Canadians that were in your position were not lucky to experience the transformation of your family thanks to your now wife. Their unaltered bigotry led to this:
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We now know that those teams are not representative of the population that played soccer in the country at the time, they also do not include the players that could potentially be the best in the country. Furthermore, we know understand that those teams and the image that wanted to be portrayed to the world (i.e. Canada as a White Country with the odd token minority).
We all know that the Canadian National Team severely underperforms given the wealth of the country and the health indicators of the population. However, this underperformance is quite understandable and logical once you realize the internal bias and marginalization of huge sectors that exist within the soccer circles.
Yes, it is possible that the people in Surrey did not had their "shite together" as you point out. However, as the article points out, the Victoria group is not completely ready. A logical and rational decision would be to put the the CPL franchise in the Surrey/Langley area. The demographics and the commitment to soccer from those two communities is without parallel in BC. If there is a will, there is way. We all know that this is sensible solution to land the first franchise.
However, the powers that rule and govern our soccer are not ready to give the South Asian community the prominent role that it deserves. I feel bad for the kids on those communities because once again they have been marginalized and their development sabotaged.
On the personal note, I am sorry to bring it to you, but discrimination and bias will limit the opportunities of your children. No matter how hard they work or how hard they try. Race matters in the Canadian and USA workforce, and if you do not believe it, then you better start to read about it.
This might be a dumb question but does anyone know if the teams are owned by the CPL or by an ownership group. Can anyone who has deep pockets get a team or do they have to meet some sort of criteria (geographic/financial)?