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- Thread starter Sandman
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Scholorships went down
I believe that the NCAA lowered the amount of scholorships, either 1 or 2, that a program can offer, therefore the previously powerhouse schools lost some of their fringe recruits to other schools that had scholorships available. The impressive part is teams like Dooke who manage to turn over their availability into McDonald all americans. Other programs need to learn from them.
I believe that the NCAA lowered the amount of scholorships, either 1 or 2, that a program can offer, therefore the previously powerhouse schools lost some of their fringe recruits to other schools that had scholorships available. The impressive part is teams like Dooke who manage to turn over their availability into McDonald all americans. Other programs need to learn from them.
Captain Shamrock
Well-Known Member
Not a stellar start.....
Local phenom Kyle Wilson had a rough start last night in his opening game with the U Mass Minutemen..........When your turnovers outnumber your points, you know you had a tough game.......
Massachusetts REBOUNDS PLAYER MIN FG FT 3PT OFF TOT AST PF ST TO PTS Jenkins 18 0-5 2-2 0-3 3 6 2 1 2 1 2 Brand 34 11-14 1-2 0-0 0 4 1 3 2 2 23 Rhymer 24 2-7 1-3 0-0 4 8 2 3 2 1 5
K Wilson 16 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 3 0
Also, number 3 Kansas was upset 93-91 by Ball State. Top ranked Duke needed a steal in the last 7 seconds to preserve an 80-79 victory of the Pirates of Seton Hall. College basketball is brilliant.
Captain
Local phenom Kyle Wilson had a rough start last night in his opening game with the U Mass Minutemen..........When your turnovers outnumber your points, you know you had a tough game.......
Massachusetts REBOUNDS PLAYER MIN FG FT 3PT OFF TOT AST PF ST TO PTS Jenkins 18 0-5 2-2 0-3 3 6 2 1 2 1 2 Brand 34 11-14 1-2 0-0 0 4 1 3 2 2 23 Rhymer 24 2-7 1-3 0-0 4 8 2 3 2 1 5
K Wilson 16 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 3 0
Also, number 3 Kansas was upset 93-91 by Ball State. Top ranked Duke needed a steal in the last 7 seconds to preserve an 80-79 victory of the Pirates of Seton Hall. College basketball is brilliant.
Captain
The top 10 is going to change
This is why a true sports fan loves college sports because on any given night the underdog has a chance.
Kansas and Georgetown both suffer early losses and combine that with Carolina and Kentucky it is going to make for an interesting year. These are 4 of the most storied programs in college basketball history, I wonder how they will respond to the early upsets.
This is why a true sports fan loves college sports because on any given night the underdog has a chance.
Kansas and Georgetown both suffer early losses and combine that with Carolina and Kentucky it is going to make for an interesting year. These are 4 of the most storied programs in college basketball history, I wonder how they will respond to the early upsets.
sensei_hanson
New Member
Seton Hall
The Blue Devs-Pirates game might not have been such a surprise to those in the know. Seton Hall still has a core of recruits that came in under Tommy Amaker, including Marcus Toney-El and Andre Barrett. Seton Hall really should have been an elite-8 calibre team last season (think about it - Eddie Griffin and Samuel Dalembert were first round draft picks) and really fell apart due to internal strife. Had they kept their heads on straight, they would have made the NCAAs and probably done quite well given the talent level they had at their disposal.
This narrow loss to the consensus #1 might do a lot to get the Pirates back into the top 25. That being said, the three-way passing play between Duhon, Williams and Dunleavy to finish with the Jones dunk was one of the nicest college plays I've ever seen. Duke really is a different class. I think Duke could land 4 guys in the draft this year if they decide to come out at the same time.
The Blue Devs-Pirates game might not have been such a surprise to those in the know. Seton Hall still has a core of recruits that came in under Tommy Amaker, including Marcus Toney-El and Andre Barrett. Seton Hall really should have been an elite-8 calibre team last season (think about it - Eddie Griffin and Samuel Dalembert were first round draft picks) and really fell apart due to internal strife. Had they kept their heads on straight, they would have made the NCAAs and probably done quite well given the talent level they had at their disposal.
This narrow loss to the consensus #1 might do a lot to get the Pirates back into the top 25. That being said, the three-way passing play between Duhon, Williams and Dunleavy to finish with the Jones dunk was one of the nicest college plays I've ever seen. Duke really is a different class. I think Duke could land 4 guys in the draft this year if they decide to come out at the same time.
Rankings
Blue Devils still #1
1. Duke (pv) 1
2. Illinoise (pv) 3
3. UCLA (pv) 5
4. Kansas (pv) 7
5. Missouri (pv) 8
6. Maryland (pv) 2
7. Florida (pv) 6
8. Arizona (pv) ---
9. Iowa (pv) 9
10. Kentucky (pv) 4
Funny the Heels were nowhere to be found
Sensei who does the voting for these rankings?? Coaches or is it the press?
Blue Devils still #1
1. Duke (pv) 1
2. Illinoise (pv) 3
3. UCLA (pv) 5
4. Kansas (pv) 7
5. Missouri (pv) 8
6. Maryland (pv) 2
7. Florida (pv) 6
8. Arizona (pv) ---
9. Iowa (pv) 9
10. Kentucky (pv) 4
Funny the Heels were nowhere to be found
Sensei who does the voting for these rankings?? Coaches or is it the press?
sensei_hanson
New Member
Good question...
Two polls are released each week, the AP (associated press) and the Coaches Poll. I have no idea which one you posted.
Two polls are released each week, the AP (associated press) and the Coaches Poll. I have no idea which one you posted.
sensei_hanson
New Member
Here is the AP Poll
The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 19, 2001)
Associated Press Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (67) (0-0) 1,747 1
2. Illinois (3) (1-0) 1,664 3
3. UCLA (0-0) 1,523 5
4. Kansas (0-0) 1,429 7
5. Missouri (2-0) 1,372 8
6. Maryland (2-1) 1,311 2
7. Florida (2-1) 1,273 6
8. Arizona (3-0) 1,261 NR
9. Iowa (3-0) 1,214 9
10. Kentucky (1-1) 1,053 4
11. Virginia (2-0) 1,017 11
12. Memphis (3-0) 967 12
13. Michigan St (2-0) 892 15
14. Stanford (1-0) 879 13
15. Oklahoma St (2-0) 727 18
16. Georgetown (1-0) 711 14
17. Boston College (0-0) 620 17
18. Syracuse (3-0) 504 21
19. Saint Josephs (1-1) 474 10
20. Indiana (0-0) 304 22
21. Western Ky (2-0) 299 NR
22. Alabama (2-0) 291 24
23. Fresno St (2-0) 282 NR
24. USC (1-1) 149 20
25. Temple (0-2) 129 16
The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 19, 2001)
Associated Press Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (67) (0-0) 1,747 1
2. Illinois (3) (1-0) 1,664 3
3. UCLA (0-0) 1,523 5
4. Kansas (0-0) 1,429 7
5. Missouri (2-0) 1,372 8
6. Maryland (2-1) 1,311 2
7. Florida (2-1) 1,273 6
8. Arizona (3-0) 1,261 NR
9. Iowa (3-0) 1,214 9
10. Kentucky (1-1) 1,053 4
11. Virginia (2-0) 1,017 11
12. Memphis (3-0) 967 12
13. Michigan St (2-0) 892 15
14. Stanford (1-0) 879 13
15. Oklahoma St (2-0) 727 18
16. Georgetown (1-0) 711 14
17. Boston College (0-0) 620 17
18. Syracuse (3-0) 504 21
19. Saint Josephs (1-1) 474 10
20. Indiana (0-0) 304 22
21. Western Ky (2-0) 299 NR
22. Alabama (2-0) 291 24
23. Fresno St (2-0) 282 NR
24. USC (1-1) 149 20
25. Temple (0-2) 129 16
sensei_hanson
New Member
And here is the coaches poll
The USA TODAY/ESPN Coaches Top 25 college basketball coaches' poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 18, 2001)
College Basketball Coaches' Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (30) (0-0) 774 1
2. Illinois (1) (1-0) 737 2
3. Kansas (0-0) 669 5
4. UCLA (0-0) 664 4
5. Maryland (2-1) 592 6
6. Florida (2-1) 588 7
7. Arizona (3-0) 528 12
8. Iowa (3-0) 516 10
9. Missouri (2-0) 503 8
10. Virginia (2-0) 482 11
11. Michigan St (2-0) 444 13
12. Kentucky (1-1) 438 3
13. Stanford (1-0) 366 16
14. Memphis (3-0) 349 14
15. Georgetown (1-0) 347 15
16. Oklahoma St (2-0) 320 18
17. Boston College (1-0) 250 17
18. Syracuse (3-0) 238 19
19. Saint Josephs (1-1) 191 9
20. Indiana (0-0) 167 20
21. Fresno St (2-0) 128 NR
22. Alabama (2-0) 106 NR
23. Oklahoma (1-1) 86 24
24. Texas (0-1) 70 22
25. Western Ky (2-0) 62 NR
The USA TODAY/ESPN Coaches Top 25 college basketball coaches' poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 18, 2001)
College Basketball Coaches' Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (30) (0-0) 774 1
2. Illinois (1) (1-0) 737 2
3. Kansas (0-0) 669 5
4. UCLA (0-0) 664 4
5. Maryland (2-1) 592 6
6. Florida (2-1) 588 7
7. Arizona (3-0) 528 12
8. Iowa (3-0) 516 10
9. Missouri (2-0) 503 8
10. Virginia (2-0) 482 11
11. Michigan St (2-0) 444 13
12. Kentucky (1-1) 438 3
13. Stanford (1-0) 366 16
14. Memphis (3-0) 349 14
15. Georgetown (1-0) 347 15
16. Oklahoma St (2-0) 320 18
17. Boston College (1-0) 250 17
18. Syracuse (3-0) 238 19
19. Saint Josephs (1-1) 191 9
20. Indiana (0-0) 167 20
21. Fresno St (2-0) 128 NR
22. Alabama (2-0) 106 NR
23. Oklahoma (1-1) 86 24
24. Texas (0-1) 70 22
25. Western Ky (2-0) 62 NR
sensei_hanson
New Member
Heels in trouble....
0-2 to start the season!
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP) -- Matt Doherty has played on one of the few North Carolina teams to start a season 0-2.
Now he's coached one.
Four days after losing in the Smith Center to Hampton and one day after falling out of the Top 25, the Tar Heels lost in the final seconds to Davidson 58-54 Tuesday night.
Chris Pearson's slam dunk with 31.9 seconds left was the go-ahead basket and Peter Anderer made two free throws 21 seconds later to seal the upset as the Wildcats improved to 1-1.
The Tar Heels, ranked 19th in the preseason, haven't lost their opening two games since the 1982-83 season when Doherty was a junior. But those losses were to St. John's and Missouri, and not on the home court where the storied program had gone 176-27 prior to the two stunning losses.
"It's got to be low," Doherty said when asked about his team's confidence level. "So, after the game I was very positive with them.
"I was on a team that was 0-2 and should have been 0-3, but a guy named Jordan hit a jumper at the buzzer to put it into overtime and we beat Tulane in triple overtime. It does shake your confidence."
Michael Jordan isn't on this team or anybody who comes close. The Tar Heels have now lost twice to teams from the Mid-Eastern Athletic and Southern Conferences that have shot less than 40 percent.
"We've to got to go back to work, that's where we go from here," senior Jason Capel said. "We got better shots tonight, they're just not going in. That's the beauty of basketball, you can shoot the ball great one night and not so well the next."
North Carolina trailed by as many as 12 points in the first half and by eight with 2:31 left before Capel's 3-pointer capped an 8-0 run to tie it up with 55.6 seconds left.
But seconds later the North Carolina defense lost Pearman inside and got the game-winning basket after a pass from Michael Bree.
Seeing a zone for the second straight game, the Tar Heels shot 30 percent -- 25.6 percent in the second half -- as Doherty lost to his former high school coach Bob McKillop.
"It's a wonderful experience to be on a Broadway stage like this," McKillop said. "As a New Yorker, I know what it's like to be on Broadway and I think our players performed wonderfully."
Kris Lang started 0-for-7 and didn't score until getting a three-point play with 11:47 left that tied the score at 36-36. He finished 4-for-14, while Capel was 3-for-14.
Lang also lost a pass underneath from Capel with 10.4 seconds left that could have tied it.
"It just hit me right in the chest," said Lang, who watched in disgust as the ball -- and North Carolina's chances -- rolled out of bounds. "I take total blame for that. I just didn't catch it and finish."
After two losses, the Tar Heels have shot a combined 12-for-54 from beyond and arc and turned it over 36 times against zone defenses.
"We're not a good ballhandling team," Doherty admitted. "We've got to give guys an idea where the looks are in the zone -- faking passes, making passes. You do some basic drills you do when you were in basketball camp in fourth grade."
Anderer led the Wildcats, who lost to Charlotte by 14 points in their season opener, with 18 points.
Melvin Scott led the Tar Heels with 15 points.
Doherty changed two players in his starting lineup, but few things were different from the first 20 minutes of the team's season-opening upset loss to Hampton last week.
Scott made a 3-pointer to open the game, but the Tar Heels managed just one basket over the next 10:25 to fall behind 17-5.
During that stretch, North Carolina committed eight of its 14 first-half miscues, which included at least one turnover from nine different players as Doherty searched for a combination that would click.
"We realized that their confidence would be shot [after the Hampton loss] and that if we could hang with them through the first round that we would have a chance," McKillop said.
The Tar Heels fell behind Hampton 17-6 and never recovered.
This time, Scott brought North Carolina back late in the half with two 3-pointers and two free throws in a span of 1:07 to help forge a 27-27 tie at the break against a Davidson team playing without suspended starter Wayne Bernard.
The Wildcats helped the Tar Heels rally by missing 10 straight during a five-minute stretch.
0-2 to start the season!
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP) -- Matt Doherty has played on one of the few North Carolina teams to start a season 0-2.
Now he's coached one.
Four days after losing in the Smith Center to Hampton and one day after falling out of the Top 25, the Tar Heels lost in the final seconds to Davidson 58-54 Tuesday night.
Chris Pearson's slam dunk with 31.9 seconds left was the go-ahead basket and Peter Anderer made two free throws 21 seconds later to seal the upset as the Wildcats improved to 1-1.
The Tar Heels, ranked 19th in the preseason, haven't lost their opening two games since the 1982-83 season when Doherty was a junior. But those losses were to St. John's and Missouri, and not on the home court where the storied program had gone 176-27 prior to the two stunning losses.
"It's got to be low," Doherty said when asked about his team's confidence level. "So, after the game I was very positive with them.
"I was on a team that was 0-2 and should have been 0-3, but a guy named Jordan hit a jumper at the buzzer to put it into overtime and we beat Tulane in triple overtime. It does shake your confidence."
Michael Jordan isn't on this team or anybody who comes close. The Tar Heels have now lost twice to teams from the Mid-Eastern Athletic and Southern Conferences that have shot less than 40 percent.
"We've to got to go back to work, that's where we go from here," senior Jason Capel said. "We got better shots tonight, they're just not going in. That's the beauty of basketball, you can shoot the ball great one night and not so well the next."
North Carolina trailed by as many as 12 points in the first half and by eight with 2:31 left before Capel's 3-pointer capped an 8-0 run to tie it up with 55.6 seconds left.
But seconds later the North Carolina defense lost Pearman inside and got the game-winning basket after a pass from Michael Bree.
Seeing a zone for the second straight game, the Tar Heels shot 30 percent -- 25.6 percent in the second half -- as Doherty lost to his former high school coach Bob McKillop.
"It's a wonderful experience to be on a Broadway stage like this," McKillop said. "As a New Yorker, I know what it's like to be on Broadway and I think our players performed wonderfully."
Kris Lang started 0-for-7 and didn't score until getting a three-point play with 11:47 left that tied the score at 36-36. He finished 4-for-14, while Capel was 3-for-14.
Lang also lost a pass underneath from Capel with 10.4 seconds left that could have tied it.
"It just hit me right in the chest," said Lang, who watched in disgust as the ball -- and North Carolina's chances -- rolled out of bounds. "I take total blame for that. I just didn't catch it and finish."
After two losses, the Tar Heels have shot a combined 12-for-54 from beyond and arc and turned it over 36 times against zone defenses.
"We're not a good ballhandling team," Doherty admitted. "We've got to give guys an idea where the looks are in the zone -- faking passes, making passes. You do some basic drills you do when you were in basketball camp in fourth grade."
Anderer led the Wildcats, who lost to Charlotte by 14 points in their season opener, with 18 points.
Melvin Scott led the Tar Heels with 15 points.
Doherty changed two players in his starting lineup, but few things were different from the first 20 minutes of the team's season-opening upset loss to Hampton last week.
Scott made a 3-pointer to open the game, but the Tar Heels managed just one basket over the next 10:25 to fall behind 17-5.
During that stretch, North Carolina committed eight of its 14 first-half miscues, which included at least one turnover from nine different players as Doherty searched for a combination that would click.
"We realized that their confidence would be shot [after the Hampton loss] and that if we could hang with them through the first round that we would have a chance," McKillop said.
The Tar Heels fell behind Hampton 17-6 and never recovered.
This time, Scott brought North Carolina back late in the half with two 3-pointers and two free throws in a span of 1:07 to help forge a 27-27 tie at the break against a Davidson team playing without suspended starter Wayne Bernard.
The Wildcats helped the Tar Heels rally by missing 10 straight during a five-minute stretch.
Captain Shamrock
Well-Known Member
If that is not enough........
Ball State 91 UCLA #4 73
This is shaping up to be a very exciting season. Next up for Ball State, the defending National Champions, Duke.
They have already knocked off the number 3 and 4 ranked teams in the country. Can they do it again?
Stay tuned.
Captain who has a new favorite college basketball team
Ball State 91 UCLA #4 73
This is shaping up to be a very exciting season. Next up for Ball State, the defending National Champions, Duke.
They have already knocked off the number 3 and 4 ranked teams in the country. Can they do it again?
Stay tuned.
Captain who has a new favorite college basketball team
Captain Shamrock
Well-Known Member
A role player.....
Though his numbers might be appropriate for Chump of the Night , his impact obviously can't be measured in stats. How can I not love a team with a familymembersomewherealongtheline playing?
Go on Burnsie....
Ball St REBOUNDS PLAYER MIN FG FT 3PT OFF TOT AST PF ST TO PTS Smith 33 9-19 2-2 2-4 2 5 0 2 2 0 22 Jones 21 7-7 0-1 0-0 3 7 0 3 2 0 14 Mccollum 22 2-6 0-0 1-5 2 4 4 3 0 0 5 Williams 28 4-15 2-2 2-8 2 4 1 2 0 3 12 Jackson 36 9-19 0-1 5-10 0 1 6 0 2 3 23 Robbins 10 1-4 0-0 1-3 0 0 1 1 0 0 3 Bennett 16 0-1 0-0 0-1 1 3 1 4 0 0 0 Willingham 6 3-3 0-0 1-1 2 3 1 3 0 3 7 Owens 24 2-7 1-2 0-2 2 4 1 2 2 0 5 Miller 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Burns 2 0-0 0-2 0-0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 Totals 200 37-81 5-10 12-34 15 33 15 20 5 3 91
He played 2 minutes, went 0 for 2 from the line, and pulled down 2 rebounds(one offensive) .
He being the 6'8", 270lb senior from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, BRIAN BURNS . I will be posting his and my new team's numbers after every game on the new thread that has just been started.
CaptainwhoreallyhasanuncleandcousinnamedBrian
Though his numbers might be appropriate for Chump of the Night , his impact obviously can't be measured in stats. How can I not love a team with a familymembersomewherealongtheline playing?
Go on Burnsie....
Ball St REBOUNDS PLAYER MIN FG FT 3PT OFF TOT AST PF ST TO PTS Smith 33 9-19 2-2 2-4 2 5 0 2 2 0 22 Jones 21 7-7 0-1 0-0 3 7 0 3 2 0 14 Mccollum 22 2-6 0-0 1-5 2 4 4 3 0 0 5 Williams 28 4-15 2-2 2-8 2 4 1 2 0 3 12 Jackson 36 9-19 0-1 5-10 0 1 6 0 2 3 23 Robbins 10 1-4 0-0 1-3 0 0 1 1 0 0 3 Bennett 16 0-1 0-0 0-1 1 3 1 4 0 0 0 Willingham 6 3-3 0-0 1-1 2 3 1 3 0 3 7 Owens 24 2-7 1-2 0-2 2 4 1 2 2 0 5 Miller 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Burns 2 0-0 0-2 0-0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 Totals 200 37-81 5-10 12-34 15 33 15 20 5 3 91
He played 2 minutes, went 0 for 2 from the line, and pulled down 2 rebounds(one offensive) .
He being the 6'8", 270lb senior from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, BRIAN BURNS . I will be posting his and my new team's numbers after every game on the new thread that has just been started.
CaptainwhoreallyhasanuncleandcousinnamedBrian
sensei_hanson
New Member
New Rankings....
Burnsie,
Check them Ball State Cardinals!
The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 25, 2001)
Associated Press Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (67) (4-0) 1,747 1
2. Illinois (3) (5-0) 1,672 2
3. Missouri (5-0) 1,564 5
4. Arizona (3-0) 1,470 8
5. Maryland (3-1) 1,394 6
6. Florida (2-1) 1,297 7
7. Iowa (4-1) 1,181 9
8. Kansas (2-1) 1,171 4
9. Virginia (3-0) 1,105 11
10. UCLA (2-1) 1,058 3
11. Stanford (3-0) 1,050 14
12. Syracuse (5-0) 1,024 18
13. Kentucky (2-1) 1,005 10
14. Oklahoma St (6-0) 925 15
15. Boston College (3-0) 686 17
16. Ball St (2-1) 565 NR
17. Western Ky (4-0) 513 21
18. Georgetown (3-1) 391 16
19. Saint Josephs (2-1) 382 19
20. Memphis (4-2) 359 12
21. Alabama (3-1) 349 22
22. Michigan St (2-2) 318 13
23. Marquette (5-0) 308 NR
24. Fresno St (3-1) 255 23
25. Wake Forest (4-1) 237 NR
Dropped Out:
No. 20 Indiana, No. 24 USC, No. 25 Temple.
Others Receiving Votes:
Indiana 223, Oklahoma 72, USC 70, Gonzaga 57, Georgia 51, Connecticut 41, Cincinnati 32, Temple 28, Oregon 25, Mississippi 18, No Carolina St 13, Tennessee 12, Notre Dame 10, California 9, Southern Ill 7, Arkansas 6, Pennsylvania 6, Wyoming 6, Butler 5, Mississippi St 5, Auburn 4, Texas 4, Utah 4, Colorado 3, Miami Fla 3, Minnesota 3, Utah St 3, South Florida 2, Army 1, Xavier 1
Burnsie,
Check them Ball State Cardinals!
The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 25, 2001)
Associated Press Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (67) (4-0) 1,747 1
2. Illinois (3) (5-0) 1,672 2
3. Missouri (5-0) 1,564 5
4. Arizona (3-0) 1,470 8
5. Maryland (3-1) 1,394 6
6. Florida (2-1) 1,297 7
7. Iowa (4-1) 1,181 9
8. Kansas (2-1) 1,171 4
9. Virginia (3-0) 1,105 11
10. UCLA (2-1) 1,058 3
11. Stanford (3-0) 1,050 14
12. Syracuse (5-0) 1,024 18
13. Kentucky (2-1) 1,005 10
14. Oklahoma St (6-0) 925 15
15. Boston College (3-0) 686 17
16. Ball St (2-1) 565 NR
17. Western Ky (4-0) 513 21
18. Georgetown (3-1) 391 16
19. Saint Josephs (2-1) 382 19
20. Memphis (4-2) 359 12
21. Alabama (3-1) 349 22
22. Michigan St (2-2) 318 13
23. Marquette (5-0) 308 NR
24. Fresno St (3-1) 255 23
25. Wake Forest (4-1) 237 NR
Dropped Out:
No. 20 Indiana, No. 24 USC, No. 25 Temple.
Others Receiving Votes:
Indiana 223, Oklahoma 72, USC 70, Gonzaga 57, Georgia 51, Connecticut 41, Cincinnati 32, Temple 28, Oregon 25, Mississippi 18, No Carolina St 13, Tennessee 12, Notre Dame 10, California 9, Southern Ill 7, Arkansas 6, Pennsylvania 6, Wyoming 6, Butler 5, Mississippi St 5, Auburn 4, Texas 4, Utah 4, Colorado 3, Miami Fla 3, Minnesota 3, Utah St 3, South Florida 2, Army 1, Xavier 1
sensei_hanson
New Member
New Coaches Poll
Burnsie,
Ball State got "dissed" in the coaches poll. They must not know about Brian Burns.
The USA TODAY/ESPN Coaches Top 25 college basketball coaches' poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 24, 2001)
College Basketball Coaches' Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (31) (3-0) 775 1
2. Illinois (5-0) 744 2
3. Arizona (3-0) 635 7
4. Maryland (3-1) 629 5
5. Missouri (5-0) 626 9
6. Florida (2-1) 619 6
7. Kansas (2-1) 519 3
8. Virginia (3-0) 513 10
9. Stanford (3-0) 490 13
10. Syracuse (5-0) 483 18
11. UCLA (2-1) 444 4
12. Oklahoma St (6-0) 442 16
13. Iowa (4-1) 434 8
14. Kentucky (2-1) 388 12
15. Boston College (3-0) 282 17
16. Georgetown (3-1) 218 15
17. Michigan St (2-2) 199 11
18. Western Ky (4-0) 191 25
19. Memphis (4-2) 172 14
20. Fresno St (3-1) 151 21
21. Saint Josephs (1-1) 140 19
22. Alabama (3-1) 139 22
23. Wake Forest (4-1) 119 NR
24. Indiana (3-1) 101 20
25. Ball St (2-1) 100 NR
Dropped Out:
No. 23 Oklahoma, No. 24 Texas.
Others Receiving Votes:
Marquette 94, Oklahoma 79, Connecticut 54, USC 42, Cincinnati 41, Temple 33, Gonzaga 27, Xavier 18, Butler 15, Tennessee 14, Wyoming 12, Texas 10, Miami (FL) 10, North Carolina St. 10, Purdue 10, Oregon 8, Utah 8, South Florida 6, Charlotte 5, Utah St. 5, Arkansas 4, Kent State 4, Southern Ill 4, New Mexico 3, Dayton 2, West Virginia 2, Arizona St. 1, Central Michigan 1.
Burnsie,
Ball State got "dissed" in the coaches poll. They must not know about Brian Burns.
The USA TODAY/ESPN Coaches Top 25 college basketball coaches' poll, with number of first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and previous ranking: (Records through November 24, 2001)
College Basketball Coaches' Top 25
Team Record Points Prev
1. Duke (31) (3-0) 775 1
2. Illinois (5-0) 744 2
3. Arizona (3-0) 635 7
4. Maryland (3-1) 629 5
5. Missouri (5-0) 626 9
6. Florida (2-1) 619 6
7. Kansas (2-1) 519 3
8. Virginia (3-0) 513 10
9. Stanford (3-0) 490 13
10. Syracuse (5-0) 483 18
11. UCLA (2-1) 444 4
12. Oklahoma St (6-0) 442 16
13. Iowa (4-1) 434 8
14. Kentucky (2-1) 388 12
15. Boston College (3-0) 282 17
16. Georgetown (3-1) 218 15
17. Michigan St (2-2) 199 11
18. Western Ky (4-0) 191 25
19. Memphis (4-2) 172 14
20. Fresno St (3-1) 151 21
21. Saint Josephs (1-1) 140 19
22. Alabama (3-1) 139 22
23. Wake Forest (4-1) 119 NR
24. Indiana (3-1) 101 20
25. Ball St (2-1) 100 NR
Dropped Out:
No. 23 Oklahoma, No. 24 Texas.
Others Receiving Votes:
Marquette 94, Oklahoma 79, Connecticut 54, USC 42, Cincinnati 41, Temple 33, Gonzaga 27, Xavier 18, Butler 15, Tennessee 14, Wyoming 12, Texas 10, Miami (FL) 10, North Carolina St. 10, Purdue 10, Oregon 8, Utah 8, South Florida 6, Charlotte 5, Utah St. 5, Arkansas 4, Kent State 4, Southern Ill 4, New Mexico 3, Dayton 2, West Virginia 2, Arizona St. 1, Central Michigan 1.
Captain Shamrock
Well-Known Member
It was only a matter of time.....
Sensei,
The coaches obviously know nothing, like Coppertone.
They don't play again until the 29th and I will be watching carefully.
Go Cardinals.
Sensei,
The coaches obviously know nothing, like Coppertone.
They don't play again until the 29th and I will be watching carefully.
Go Cardinals.
Any Final Four Predictions
I know it is only the end of November but I was wondering if anyone has a Final Four Prediction?
I'll start.....
Favorite - Dookie
Great Coaching - Michgan State
Great Talent - Florida
UnderDog - Georgetown
Possible Cinderella - St. Joe's
I know it is only the end of November but I was wondering if anyone has a Final Four Prediction?
I'll start.....
Favorite - Dookie
Great Coaching - Michgan State
Great Talent - Florida
UnderDog - Georgetown
Possible Cinderella - St. Joe's
sensei_hanson
New Member
Surprised Sandman hasn't mentioned the whipping Duke laid on Iowa last night. The Hawkeyes are a pretty solid team with Recker, Evans and Hogan - and Alford is one of the better coaches in the country. And Duke beat the snot out of them. Dunleavy is going to surprise the hell out of everyone this season, he's gonna play himself right into the NBA lottery. He's a great shooter who always seems to knock down big shots.
In the other ACC/Big Ten Challenge game, the Terps of Maryland knocked off #2 Illinois, behind Juan Dixon's 25 points. Maryland has looked good since that season-opening loss to 'Zona. Chris Wilcox is a beast in the post for the Terps - he and Lonny Baxter could be a problem for Boozer when Duke comes to town.
In the other ACC/Big Ten Challenge game, the Terps of Maryland knocked off #2 Illinois, behind Juan Dixon's 25 points. Maryland has looked good since that season-opening loss to 'Zona. Chris Wilcox is a beast in the post for the Terps - he and Lonny Baxter could be a problem for Boozer when Duke comes to town.
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Sensei
Complimenting the Blue Devils...very untarheel!!!!!
Have you seen the SI College Basketball Issue? It gives each programs graduation rate........How do the Memphis Tigers have 0% rate........that must be a great recruiting tool.
Duke not only ranked #1 but also has the highest grad rate along with Virginia...........That's impressive.
Sandman
Complimenting the Blue Devils...very untarheel!!!!!
Have you seen the SI College Basketball Issue? It gives each programs graduation rate........How do the Memphis Tigers have 0% rate........that must be a great recruiting tool.
Duke not only ranked #1 but also has the highest grad rate along with Virginia...........That's impressive.
Sandman
sensei_hanson
New Member
Memphis Tigers...
Ha. I did see that. And ACC schools are routinely known for high grad rates...like Vince at UNC last year Don't get me started on that one. As for Duke's grad rate, well, they've always had some brainy-acts out there. Grant Hill was extremely intelligent, and Shane Battier had all kinds of academic honors last season. I know there's more, I'm just too lazy to research.
As for Memphis...Calipari's recruiting process isn't going to help that 0% either. Dajuan Wagner will barely be around after basketball season, basically telling everyone he's a 1-year guy and out. Calip also goes after JuCo guys, who aren't exactly the most amazing students alive, so that aint going to help the grad rate either.
As for the Duke props....what can I say? They look amazing. And the Heels don't. And I think Mike Dunleavy could be my next big white donkey project.
-Sensei.
Ha. I did see that. And ACC schools are routinely known for high grad rates...like Vince at UNC last year
Don't get me started on that one. As for Duke's grad rate, well, they've always had some brainy-acts out there. Grant Hill was extremely intelligent, and Shane Battier had all kinds of academic honors last season. I know there's more, I'm just too lazy to research.As for Memphis...Calipari's recruiting process isn't going to help that 0% either. Dajuan Wagner will barely be around after basketball season, basically telling everyone he's a 1-year guy and out. Calip also goes after JuCo guys, who aren't exactly the most amazing students alive, so that aint going to help the grad rate either.
As for the Duke props....what can I say? They look amazing. And the Heels don't. And I think Mike Dunleavy could be my next big white donkey project.
-Sensei.
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