Keeper said:Right. Didn't read that far yet.
What you said. Safe to assume no response from that second email yet?
This permit problem came about because a recreational team did not like what the rules allowed or did not think it was fair. I do not have a problem with this team complaining as I understand that many players at the Div. 3 and 4 level do not want to play against the talent youth players when they are basically only out to have a fun game and play another team at their own level. All of the things that competitive teams feel is wrong with the league is caused because they are trying to cater to recreational teams.
Fat Bastard said:Further to BD's comment about reinstatement. He's right, but he missed another point. This team would have had to have all of their players re-instated back to youth players. The catch of course is that according to BCSA by-laws, no youth team may sign more than three re-instated players in one year. This of course means that this NS team is in fact ineligible. I don't know if this the MWSL's department, but more of the youth districts. But BC Soccer does not and has not enforced this rule for summer soccer. Largely because it's intended to stop players from playing for a senior team and youth team in the same season. But you're not allowed to play in two BCSA-sanctioned leagues at the same time either, and how many players play MWSL sumemr and co-ed soccer?
As for the permit issue, one person I know was told by Bob that if enough teams complain they'll look at it again. That's the way to stick to their convictions.
Further, the idea of exceptions for certain players is ludicrous. How will they determine which players are worthy and who are not? Not sure how many people on that board are qualified to make such decisions.
And BD is also bang on with his opinions about competitive and recreational. I was on the board for four years. During that time, and to a much greater degree since then, the Board has taken a massive swing towards recreational soccer. And to be honest, they do a very good job of it. But competitive soccer is failing, and failing horribly. The level of play even at Premier is not where it used to be, there's been no effort to promote the club system, which is the key to developing this league. Even at Premier there are teams who aren't willing to make the sacrifices to be competitive, but the league continues to cater to their complaints.
When directors (such as Bob was with Burnaby) were involved with Premier teams, the Board acted much differently. Now that the Premier division, and even Division One, has such littlle representation on the Board, if any, their issues are not being dealt with.
I suggest that the Board needs people like Captain, BD, and so on. People who understand competitive soccer, and the nuances of such things as a club system and soccer development. But should you choose to go that route, you should be warned that dealing with some of these directors can be a frustrating exercise. If you can put up with it, you'll outlast them and get things going in the right direction. But like many before you, you'll simply throw your hands up in despair and go back to just coaching.
Further, the idea of exceptions for certain players is ludicrous. How will they determine which players are worthy and who are not? Not sure how many people on that board are qualified to make such decisions.
Fat Bastard said:I suggest that the Board needs people like Captain, BD, and so on. People who understand competitive soccer, and the nuances of such things as a club system and soccer development. But should you choose to go that route, you should be warned that dealing with some of these directors can be a frustrating exercise. If you can put up with it, you'll outlast them and get things going in the right direction. But like many before you, you'll simply throw your hands up in despair and go back to just coaching.
soccermadman1 said:Metro WOMEN's Soccer League - Women not girls - there's a league for girls too young to play MWSL. Why not ask the players (especially those in their mid 20's) if they want to play with kids...I think the answer would be NO. You may have your reasons for bringing young players into MWSL but it isn't just about you and the dream team you want to create. You impact the enjoyment for all the WOMEN who are playing...just a thought.
Fat Bastard I'm enjoying reading what you and most others have to say on this topic but thought I would let you know that the co-ed league in the summer is not sanctioned with BCSA.At least the AMSL co-ed league that is.But you're not allowed to play in two BCSA-sanctioned leagues at the same time either, and how many players play MWSL sumemr and co-ed soccer?
soccermadman1 said:Why not ask the players (especially those in their mid 20's) if they want to play with kids...I think the answer would be NO. .
SC said:Why don't you (the Board) ask the players/teams then??? Better yet, have them vote on the issue, it's only fair to hear from everyone.
I think you have an excellent point there - if the players want it then it should happen.
soccermadman1 said:I have a great idea...Maybe if Captain Shamrock only signs players with big jugs he can finally fulfill his dream of playing. Go get your head checked for wanting to coach little girls you sick F&%^! And yes, you know who I am - you know me well...I am THE PRESIDENT - you soccer genius!
soccermadman1 said:I think you have an excellent point there - if the players want it then it should happen.