Also noticed Prem teams missing or have they changed hands???
Who's missing? Pacific moving to CCB is the only change I've heard of.
Also noticed Prem teams missing or have they changed hands???
i dont recogize many names in div 1 as well. can someone give me the short version of any off season m and a activity.Who's missing? Pacific moving to CCB is the only change I've heard of.
I see VMSL raised their referee and ar rates..
This is cut paste from their website:
As discussed at the AGM, the league is increasing referee fees $10 per head referee and $5 per linesman across the board for 2017-18 to account for an increase in costs since the last increase in 2012.
For teams playing 11 home games without linesmen, this has a $110 impact this season or about $5 per player.
With linesmen, this has a $220 impact per team over the season or about $10 per player.
Thank you for your understanding.
It was discussed at the AGM but not passed by the members, an email went out to the Premier teams asking if they were ok with it. Since the toll bridges won't be any longer is there a need to raise them given this was the reason the refs wanted them raised? I'm sorry but this was not passed by the members and \i have no issue with a raise but the reason given by Kevin Deliba was the increase was for tolls. Can someone answer or at least let us know which Premier teams agreed with the change?
@robj the way I read the email wasn't so much that it was asking for agreement, but rather if enough people complained then they might rethink the increase. I guess not enough people complained to make the league exec change their mind.
LOL - Correct.
You have to report the revenue to in turn claim the expenses.*
The only Reason Al Capone went to prison was
He did not pay his taxes
*This is in no way shape or form a comment on how individual officials in the lower mainland report fees for services to CRA.
But seriously....how in the hell can ref fees go up. It's getting rediculous. They are up in the valley now also. With turf fields costing $100 per hour and now ref fees and game balls....it's getting up there in cost per game. I am all for a higher standard...but not when it is pay to play...
Don't we all "pay to play amateur soccer?" I am of the distinct impression that my group has been doing so for several years now.....
I'm holding back....
Correction at the AGM the motion was brought forward to bring the refs fees up for the BCSA meeting. The motion to bring the VMSL ref fees was put in abeyance pending a discussion with the refs and Premier teams and to revisit it for next year. I know this because it was my motion. The motion would have failed at our AGM had it been put forward knowing this I put that motion forward. It WON'T be me but don't be surprised if someone puts a motion forward to decrease the ref fees next year as there were many in that room that were against it. Just saying. This wasn't the way to go about it. I responded to the vmsl email in this topic when it was brought forward but never got a response. And mine wasn't a complaint on the fee increase, it was to follow what was passed at the meeting. The argument that was brought forward was mostly in regards to the toll fees for the reasoning behind the increase. If the refs actually claimed this as a business they could probably write off the gas, equipment they need, and tolls. Am I correct here @Rangerforever
Hello Rob
Just to correct you a little bit Duliba just happened to write the letter on behalf of the VMSL ref's not any other league ( Utah ). We all asked for the raise because we felt we deserve one. To do games every week we are asked to travel to all corners of the Lower mainland, and we don't have the luxury to "playing home gates every 2 weeks".
My truck mileage on average does at 3000 kilometers a year in soccer refereeing activates, at some parks we are required to pay for your parking. Now we are blessed by the NDP to free bridge crossing but we all know they will hike up something else to pay for the bridges.
We are also required to do BC courses which are not free and pay for assessments, new uniforms and equipment .
Before you all jump on and say we don't deserve it ( as a player I agree some referees that don't put in the work on the field )it would be unfair to punish those who do.
A lot of people do criticize but would never referee, try it and then comment.
Hello Rob
Just to correct you a little bit Duliba just happened to write the letter on behalf of the VMSL ref's not any other league ( Utah ). We all asked for the raise because we felt we deserve one. To do games every week we are asked to travel to all corners of the Lower mainland, and we don't have the luxury to "playing home gates every 2 weeks".
My truck mileage on average does at 3000 kilometers a year in soccer refereeing activates, at some parks we are required to pay for your parking. Now we are blessed by the NDP to free bridge crossing but we all know they will hike up something else to pay for the bridges.
We are also required to do BC courses which are not free and pay for assessments, new uniforms and equipment .
Before you all jump on and say we don't deserve it ( as a player I agree some referees that don't put in the work on the field )it would be unfair to punish those who do.
A lot of people do criticize but would never referee, try it and then comment.
Hopefully the extra income will allow a good lot of you to upgrade and get stronger eye glass prescriptions. And if there is any extra left over they can use it to call the occasional cab so they can leave the centre circle and visit the 18 yard box the odd time